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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · 16/07/2026 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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EasternStandard · 16/07/2026 22:14

SummerPeonies2026 · 16/07/2026 22:12

WTAF!!!

Over and out

All those Labour men. They’re putting people off too don’t worry.

EverythingAIIAtOnce · 16/07/2026 22:19

BIossomtoes · 16/07/2026 21:55

Perhaps this might jog her memory.

🤣

EasternStandard · 16/07/2026 22:20

EverythingAIIAtOnce · 16/07/2026 22:19

🤣

He’s still gone 😬

SummerPeonies2026 · 16/07/2026 22:22

EasternStandard · 16/07/2026 22:10

Laughing at posters following our thread as they do. But it turns out the Times was right he could retract after all.

He’s gone.

Trump is going to make mincemeat out of Burnham, whom clearly is an anti semite - retraction or no retraction.

What an astonishing poor start to choose anti semitism over any actual god damn policy. How could it really get any worse???

Burnham is now toast, but didn’t want the job as PM anyway, so I am sure it is kindness really.

EasternStandard · 16/07/2026 22:25

SummerPeonies2026 · 16/07/2026 22:22

Trump is going to make mincemeat out of Burnham, whom clearly is an anti semite - retraction or no retraction.

What an astonishing poor start to choose anti semitism over any actual god damn policy. How could it really get any worse???

Burnham is now toast, but didn’t want the job as PM anyway, so I am sure it is kindness really.

Edited

Your posts are attracting unhappy Labour supporters. They won’t like losing Starmer.

Whammyammy · 16/07/2026 22:26

More taxes from the middle to fund lifestyles of the idle.....

EverythingAIIAtOnce · 16/07/2026 22:29

EasternStandard · 16/07/2026 22:10

Laughing at posters following our thread as they do. But it turns out the Times was right he could retract after all.

He’s gone.

So no straight answer, then? Nicknames are fine if they aren't about Badenoch?

EverythingAIIAtOnce · 16/07/2026 22:35

EasternStandard · 16/07/2026 22:20

He’s still gone 😬

And I still say it is hypocritical to object to nicknames about Badenoch if one is happy to use them for other politicians.

EverythingAIIAtOnce · 16/07/2026 22:36

SummerPeonies2026 · 16/07/2026 22:22

Trump is going to make mincemeat out of Burnham, whom clearly is an anti semite - retraction or no retraction.

What an astonishing poor start to choose anti semitism over any actual god damn policy. How could it really get any worse???

Burnham is now toast, but didn’t want the job as PM anyway, so I am sure it is kindness really.

Edited

What retraction do you mean? Genuinely asking.

Mespher · 16/07/2026 23:04

There seems to be a bit of a do about this cabinet, mainly about who is going to be chancellor. Was there a do when Starmer chose his cabinet or did he just pick who he wanted with no fuss from the MPs

BIossomtoes · 16/07/2026 23:09

Mespher · 16/07/2026 23:04

There seems to be a bit of a do about this cabinet, mainly about who is going to be chancellor. Was there a do when Starmer chose his cabinet or did he just pick who he wanted with no fuss from the MPs

There’s only a ‘do’ in that Burnham’s not going to announce his cabinet until Monday and it’s driving the media crazy having to wait.

rainingsnoring · 17/07/2026 00:04

Redpaisley · 16/07/2026 06:47

You have no idea what you are talking about. Seems like for you anyone not claiming benefit is a rich person. We don’t know her circumstances and even if she has 2 homes, she didn’t do anything illegal. She can’t sell second house for whatever reasons, and it’s her choice. She has as much right to worry about new government as someone with barely enough income to rent a home. She is as much citizen as you and other posters are. I think you are being very unfair in wanting her to not express her fear.

What a lot of odd assumptions you are making.
I haven't mentioned benefits, just stated facts in a previous post about the OP owning 2 homes and sending a child to a private school.
Who mentioned anything about it being illegal?
I literally said it was her choice not to sell her other home, and one that she needs to accept responsibility for.
She can worry about a new government but many will have far less sympathy for someone who is clearly comfortably off complaining that she is on the bread line than someone who is genuinely on the breadline.
I hope that helps clarify my position.

rainingsnoring · 17/07/2026 00:20

SummerPeonies2026 · 16/07/2026 06:44

It’s interesting that Labour supporters blame ‘terminal decline’ suddenly now rather than acknowledging that Labour are not fit to govern.

Labour have no policies
No plan whatsoever
They came to government with YEARS to prepare, with nothing to offer the country at all apart from encouraging the poor to have more children they can’t afford - another eye watering sum for the tax payers. They have absolutely no idea what they are doing.

It is possible to invigorate the economy. To stimulate growth by cutting the overheads for businesses, making it attractive to hire etc etc. Reverse some of the ridiculous decisions made by Reeves.

Of course it’s possible to produce a growth plan designed to fire up the country and the economy. Slash welfare, get people working.
Bring in policies where working actually pays. Start supporting business and ramp up production..

We are living well beyond our means with the dead weight of millions of healthy people that could be contributing, instead are languishing on welfare. We need to address the ballooning immigration bill that is costing us billions and billions.
So much could be done!

But it won’t be done by Burnham that’s for sure. I actually think Labour hates this country, and are determined to see us all fail. Flat lining the country to the lowest denominator, and into some kind of dystopian socialist hellscape, in line with their woke ideals.

It’s devastating to see them flounder so badly, when we really need leadership, direction and purpose as a country.

Who told you that I was a Labour supporter? You are incorrect by the way.
Your obvious hatred for Labour and tribalism prevents you from seeing things clearly.
If this evasive 'growth' that people keen talking about was so easy, why did the Tories fail in their 14 years? Try to think about it objectively.

rainingsnoring · 17/07/2026 00:23

Meadowfinch · 16/07/2026 07:00

Because gdp is generated by private businesses. Not the councils or the nhs. By individuals having the guts to risk their financial security to set up companies and build something from nothing and then employ people.
17,000,000 people in the UK are employed by small privately owned businesses. That's 60% of our work force.
Labour has made it almost impossible for those small businesses to survive. They certainly cannot flourish. They may limp along but Labour is hobbling them, discouraging new ones from starting up, making it more likely existing ones will fail or owners will give up and retire.

What sane person would start a business under Labour's NI/minimum wage/ business charges for electricity/business rates ?

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I do agree with you there @Meadowfinch. However, what did the Tories do for small business? They are all run by the huge corporations, unfortunately.
A better system could certainly be designed but it would involve a huge overhaul and I can't see any of the current parties doing that. They need to overhaul this notion of growth too...

rainingsnoring · 17/07/2026 00:31

OneWarmHazelQuail · 16/07/2026 08:14

Not true. House is not shifting. Large mortgage - only so much loss I can afford to take.

It will shift if you lower the price enough. That is a certainty unless there is a major issue such as cladding. According to your OP, you are already taking a loss now that it is rented out.

Æthelred · 17/07/2026 00:31

I've seen enough. My curiosity is at an end. I no longer care what happens.

rainingsnoring · 17/07/2026 00:33

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 16/07/2026 20:56

But if she can't sell it at a high enough piece to cover the mortgage or show how she'll pay the difference the mortgage provider can veto the sale. It might not be a choice.

Edited

I very much doubt that this is the case because she appears to have already bought a second house. The OP has had plenty of time to explain the situation if there has been a misunderstanding here.

Mespher · 17/07/2026 04:14

You can probably use 'We buy any house' type place or Auction. This is what DS will probably have to do to offload ours when we die.

Oooeeh · 17/07/2026 07:19

OP - I’m sorry you’ve received so much flack here.

For those that haven’t had to contemplate the SEN system you have no idea how it works.

on paper yes send kid to special school and all will be well. In reality, it’s years waiting for a diagnosis. 2 years. Years waiting for echp. 18-24 months. Then applying for the school itself. (If there is one that suits their needs - keeping in mind some counties in the UK do not have autistic schools or places) 6-12 months. Then having to appeal as it’s usually rejected. 12 months. This also costs families thousands of pounds. The system is failing genuine people in need - you only have to google recent findings of councils laughing at families. This is the tip of the ice berg.

well done for putting yourself in such a difficult position for your child’s wellbeing and future.

I also understand your position on selling your other property. You are struggling at the moment and selling at a loss will put you in further debt that you can’t afford to have.

there’s no quick fixes here.

unfortunately some people on mumsnet see second home and private school = money and stop complaining when it’s far from the truth.

To answer your question - I am concerned about the impact new policies are going to have.

CoffeeCantata · 17/07/2026 07:20

Me too. I liked Keir.

Please save us from charismatic PMs! From Thatcher to Blair to Johnson and now the super-smug Burnham. I like solid, unglamorous, genuine ones like Major, Brown, May.

Oh well. It will be what it will be but I think, for all his fancy ideas, he'll find he's enmeshed in the usual stuff - foreign affairs and defence etc - and won't have time to implement his more out-there plans.

Bullandbear · 17/07/2026 07:30

There is no appetite for any further tax raids.

Burnham needs to understand this when the rubber hits the road on Monday.
Money tree politics does not work.

Meanwhile, I still have a smile on my face from Starmer and Reeves having been binned.

thepariscrimefiles · 17/07/2026 07:36

SummerPeonies2026 · 16/07/2026 12:00

Your son will need to get used to it op, and yes for a while it might be hard, but consider long term what getting regular breaks will do.

Burnham has no right to the premiership, a GE is inevitable as he won’t have the creditability or authority to do anything, so please just hold on. The Labour Party is tearing itself apart no, and I expect it to continue until it is finished altogether.

Did Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak have a right to the premiership or do you only object when it's a Labour government.

Bullandbear · 17/07/2026 07:43

thepariscrimefiles · 17/07/2026 07:36

Did Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak have a right to the premiership or do you only object when it's a Labour government.

Look, Truss and Sunak no longer matter - that’s done.

It’s Labours to own now, and that’s how the majority of the electorate see it.

CoffeeCantata · 17/07/2026 07:48

Bullandbear · 17/07/2026 07:30

There is no appetite for any further tax raids.

Burnham needs to understand this when the rubber hits the road on Monday.
Money tree politics does not work.

Meanwhile, I still have a smile on my face from Starmer and Reeves having been binned.

I agree. You can only squeeze the hardworking sector of the population so much. He needs to look at where money can be saved...and I could suggest a few!

Lots of institutions which I totally support in principle, just to be clear, waste money hand over fist. I've worked in the public services and I know just how much gets wasted. And the BBC, which I wouldn't be without, is shocking! Never believe them when they say they haven't enough funds - they are profligate with what they're given, and frankly need to focus on being a public service broadcaster and do the important core things and not try to rival Netflix or the commercial channels.

The NHS - why do I need to be called to 5 separate appointments to deal with a suspicious mole??? This is where the money goes.

thepariscrimefiles · 17/07/2026 07:50

SummerPeonies2026 · 16/07/2026 13:35

Interesting how no one wants to be associated with the far left, quite understandably, and yet here we are on the cusp of having one of Corbyn’s henchmen as PM, entirely unelected by anyone I might add.

It’s a pitiful state of affairs.

Lol! He managed to comprehensively beat Reform in the Makerfield by-election where Reform had won in a landslide in the local elections only about a month earlier. I bet you needed therapy after that!

Obviously, anyone slightly to the left of Hitler or Trump is far-left in your eyes. The right, particularly the far right like Reform and Restore voters, are really thin-skinned and really whiney and ungracious losers.

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