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AIBU to think some offenders should never be released?

73 replies

Oooeeh · 30/06/2026 14:18

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2wl6ynn2no

The Home Office said Ahmed's crimes were "appalling" and that he would be subject to stringent licence conditions upon his release from prison.

He has the right to be in the UK. Fine. But here’s a wild idea - why not keep him locked up and safe from any further victims until he is dead ?

why on earth is this man being released into society. Why does he get to enjoy time as a free man when his victims will live with his terrible actions forever? It’s an absolute kick in the guts to any victims of this awful crime.

It makes sense surely not to pose any further risk to anyone. Where is the justice in this ?

A mugshot of an Asian man in his 60s, with a grey moustache and bald head. He is looking into the camera.

Ringleader of Rochdale grooming gang 'cannot be deported'

A 55-year-old law means the government has no legal powers to remove Shabir Ahmed from the UK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2wl6ynn2no

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ThePM · 30/06/2026 15:57

I hope he lives in fear, of being spat at, and screamed at every day for the rest of his miserable existence.
He is someone that really makes me question my opposition to vigilante actions.

Hopefully there is someone here who can let him know he is shit in living form.
Disgusting hypocritical men like him are the absolute worst.

relaxitsok · 30/06/2026 16:08

Sexual offences have relatively high recidivism rates afaik, therefore should have the longest sentences. I agree that serious sexual offending is one category where I would support lifetime incarceration. Put them all on an island somewhere.

notatinydancer · 30/06/2026 16:11

Death penalty. Not just for him. Most recently , see Preston Davey.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/06/2026 16:25

ThePM · 30/06/2026 15:57

I hope he lives in fear, of being spat at, and screamed at every day for the rest of his miserable existence.
He is someone that really makes me question my opposition to vigilante actions.

Hopefully there is someone here who can let him know he is shit in living form.
Disgusting hypocritical men like him are the absolute worst.

He should have had a racial aggravation charge slapped on him there and then.

Sorry, meant to quote @faithfultoGeorgeMichael

SeasideDaisy · 30/06/2026 16:36

How appalling that his victims now have to deal with his release. He shouldn’t be released or allowed to stay in the country.
I wonder how much it costs the tax payer to supervise people like him.
Id vote him he death penalty back tomorrow if I could, in black and white cases like this one or Rose West/Wayne Couzens/Jamie Varley what’s the point in keeping them alive.

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 30/06/2026 17:44

They will not even make him move. The victims have repeatedly been taunted and verbally abused and spat at by their families. These are very poor women with few choices in where to live.

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 30/06/2026 17:49

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g223dl875o

Charlotte moved and left her support network to escape these men's continued abuse in Rochdale. She took her own life in desperation. The Police, as a final act of failure to this white working class woman, refused to look for her when she was missing.

The evil rapists are 'rehabilitated', helped with housing and every aspect of their rapist lives. These men killed Charlotte, they murdered her in slow motion. They should never ever be released.

A smiling Charlotte Tetley relaxes on a swing, her blonde hair blowing in the wind

Rochdale abuse scandal: police refused search for suicidal victim

Charlotte Tetley, 33, was hit by a train in Macclesfield last year, after 'multiple previous overdoses'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g223dl875o

NoisyHiker · 30/06/2026 17:52

The death penalty, or life in a forced labour camp (not the holiday camp that is the UK prison system) are the only options left to save society.

These animals should not be free to terrorise the public again and again.

But what can you do when so many judges appear to have a soft spot for child rapists and terrorists.

Lemonfrost · 30/06/2026 18:10

JoyousOpalLemur · 30/06/2026 14:23

I used to be vehemently opposed to the death penalty.

But for people like him, I think that's the best solution to this problem.

Even if the DP were to be brought back, it is highly unlikely this crime would be eligible.

ThisOldThang · 30/06/2026 18:11

Minimum of 30 years with the only chance of release to be conditional upon full castration. Even then, I think it should be castration and no release.

Lemonfrost · 30/06/2026 18:13

NoisyHiker · 30/06/2026 17:52

The death penalty, or life in a forced labour camp (not the holiday camp that is the UK prison system) are the only options left to save society.

These animals should not be free to terrorise the public again and again.

But what can you do when so many judges appear to have a soft spot for child rapists and terrorists.

Absolutely untrue.

GoneWithTHeWindJammers · 30/06/2026 18:14

SpottyAlpaca · 30/06/2026 15:11

This is exactly the sort of case which will persuade millions of normal decent people who do not consider themselves to be racist to decide they have no other option than to vote for Reform at the next election.

The legal & judicial system which allows this to happen is fundamentally broken & requires wholesale reform to protect society, particularly women & children from an imported backward misogynistic culture which despises them & treats them as prey.

At least reform, if not restore.

TheClocksFast · 30/06/2026 18:16

Let’s have the death penalty back. That would sort out a big bunch of problems.

Lemonfrost · 30/06/2026 18:19

TheClocksFast · 30/06/2026 18:16

Let’s have the death penalty back. That would sort out a big bunch of problems.

And will also create a whole lot more.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/06/2026 18:21

I am a former prison officer. Have you seen the inside of a prison or what goes on in there? If you think it's a holiday camp think otherwise. He was lucky to come out of there alive. He has served his time and the reason he is getting early release is because he has admitted to the crime which means he will be monitored and on the sex crimes register forever.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 30/06/2026 18:21

TheClocksFast · 30/06/2026 18:16

Let’s have the death penalty back. That would sort out a big bunch of problems.

Great idea - let's give rapists a good reason to kill their victims so they can't make reports or give evidence in court.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/06/2026 18:22

TheClocksFast · 30/06/2026 18:16

Let’s have the death penalty back. That would sort out a big bunch of problems.

And you can get innocent people convicted and put to death. Never!

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 30/06/2026 18:25

@YourAmplePlumPoster he is alive thou, and going home to the wife that stood by him and the community where some think the victims are to blame.

Charlotte, one of his victims is dead by suicide.

I do not think prison is a 'holiday camp' or any other ludicrous nonsense, but it is clearly not as bad as being gang raped, tortured, called a liar and when you are at your most desperate refused help. The state cares more for these men than the victims.

The victims need justice to heal and he should NEVER be allowed back within 100 miles of Rochdale or those brave women.

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 30/06/2026 18:28

@SpottyAlpaca @GoneWithTHeWindJammers you'd think so but look at this thread, hardly busy for MN is it?
The terror of being called racist still exists and you see women smearing the victims on MN with horrifying frequency. Look at the thread about the inquiry, it is full of accusations of racism.

LuckyHazelFox · 30/06/2026 18:28

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/06/2026 18:21

I am a former prison officer. Have you seen the inside of a prison or what goes on in there? If you think it's a holiday camp think otherwise. He was lucky to come out of there alive. He has served his time and the reason he is getting early release is because he has admitted to the crime which means he will be monitored and on the sex crimes register forever.

Shame his victims weren't so lucky. Served his time my eye. He's served a portion of it. Told the relevant people what they wanted to hear etc. Great he's going to be kept away from innocent girls but I doubt his victims will feel safe.

Can people please refrain from referring to this filth as an animal. That's an unfair comparison to the furry beasts. He's a monster.

GoneWithTHeWindJammers · 30/06/2026 18:30

A way needs to be found for prisons to be self funding. Some sort of forced labour. He should have got life, then at least he could be recalled to prison if he goes anywhere near one of his victims.

Lemonfrost · 30/06/2026 18:32

GoneWithTHeWindJammers · 30/06/2026 18:30

A way needs to be found for prisons to be self funding. Some sort of forced labour. He should have got life, then at least he could be recalled to prison if he goes anywhere near one of his victims.

That sort of prison economy is a seriously bad idea unless you want people to start going to prison for all manner of things that wouldn’t normally attract a custodial sentence.

As for the second part of your post, you don’t need to be a lifer to be subject to recall.

PenelopeJoanSterling · 30/06/2026 18:34

which ponders the question why does society not have a suitable way to dispose of people that can not be apart of civilised society ?