AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

Yep so if you're just against the specific cultures you don't like, but you're ok with others like Jews, then you're not against multiculturalism in general. Which is what I said

And the German stats show Afghan men as 16x more likely to rape compared to the German baseline. Maghreb and sub Saharan Africa both 11x.

It’s the ones who don’t integrate or assimilate and choose not to live by western values. Not hard to understand.

Apart from one comment, I haven't seen any Islamophobic comments. People aren't going to stop voicing their opinions for fear of being called racist. Not anymore.

If you were in the op’s position and had the 1500 male accommodation nearby would you let a dd walk home from school by herself?

Hypothetically, at the right age to walk home.

I don't think most British Jews are a separate culture particularly.

Ok so where is the debate being shut down?

But surely a smaller workforce is what we need to be aiming for. AI is on the march, and taking jobs with it. Unemployment is going to drastically rise within the coming decades. It just doesn’t make sense people bleating on about needing more incomers to fill jobs, when we know that AI is going to have a drastic effect on employment.

The government can't force cultural change of the scale that would be necessary. 50% of British born Muslims still think homosexuality should be illegal. And of course there seems to be no shortage of do gooders desperate to welcome the men fleeing the war in Egypt.

Being Jewish is very much a culture with a rich history and many traditions, what an incredibly ignorant thing to say. Do you know many non Jewish Brits who speak Yiddish?

Afghan men they found that they were 'only' 3x more likely to be convicted of a sexual offence than British men.

There were 13 rapes by Afghan men in 2024 in the UK. Whilst even one rape is too many and I would welcome action by the government to tackle this, I think your post could be seen as misleading, as actually 10s of 000s of rapes are committed by white men.

Not demonising British Muslims btw because I work with plenty of decent ones. It's just clear that cultural beliefs take a long time to change. British Muslims think gay people should be locked up. Middle Eastern Muslims throw them off buildings.

For once, it hasn't been, despite the usual attempts. That should tell you that people aren't racist because they are sick of seeing unprecedented levels of unvetted men being a potential danger. They aren't far right or Islamophobic.

?? Of course. My DD's have been getting the tube to school since they were 12. They rub shoulders with men from all over the world every day.

All the people proposing "just offer language classes": please specify your experience working with refugee integration programmes. Describe the level of resources it took for you to help your students, and what level they managed to reach in the time you spent with them?

When did the war in Egypt start ?

I must have missed that !

But you said the left is shutting down conversation?

I see left leaning people here engaging in the conversation?

I don’t think this thread is about Muslim businessmen who reside in Kensington….

It's falling though. It's now 28% according to the ICM. Hopefully it will keep coming down.

Ok not London where the tube is pretty full, but in the op’s position you would?

Who would buy a property there now, knowing that roughly 1,500 young men will be moving into a small village of 700 people? They will be free to come and go during the day, but to do what? It’s outrageous.

We can’t keep taking so many young men like this, who clearly have no useful and in demand skills, or they would have come on proper visas. This is just going to increase support for Reform, I should think, unless the villagers can get the decision reversed like before.

I'd be interested in the answer to that as well.

They're assimilated. Don't pretend you don't know what I mean.

With the greatest respect and while I agree with you the horrific rape stats are not the main issue here.

Why the fuck are we accepting economic migrants who have travelled through multiple safe countries at all???

The fact that a proportion are sex criminals makes it worse but it's not the primary issue.

Anyone could argue that people try and shut them down. People have tried to shut me down for mentioning Wayne Couzens.