AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

Is anyone a yes to this? If they have dds who walk home from school

But people keep saying 'stop importing men', as if any party is doing this. It's not in any of the parties' interests to have visa overstayers.

Net immigration has fallen by 50% since 2024, let the government keep doing their job within the law.

Obviously YANBU OP. And anyone posting on this thread saying that YABU, and that they would be happy to live alongside these people, are lying.

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Nobody is going to admit being pro open borders but if they vote Green, it's a given. I can generalise can't I? It doesn't seem to be a problem to lump all the right in one far right box.

Big difference - those previous men were protecting the state and were vetted. We don’t know the intentions of these men

I'll explain further for you, so what I'm referring to is what has happened on this post, where OP seemed to want a fairly balanced discussion about the best way to manage the situation, which I participated in (I said no one wins in this situation, the locals or the asylum seekers).

However, the far right/islamophobes etc have entirely derailed any semblance of a reasonable discussion with extreme responses, exaggeration, anger. So it is hard to have balanced discussions when that happens, it just shuts it down entirely.

The apologists would be fine with it… BE KIND!

Well if it’s anything like the one near me which got cancelled ultimately they will have plans to have a free shuttle minibus running between the base and the city. Thats what was planned here, because a friend of mine lives in an old officers house at the base and I joked that maybe she could use the minibus to get to work. She didn’t find it very funny I don’t think!

OK you tell me then, what did you mean by this:
glitterpaperchain · Today 20:50
Being anti multiculturalism means being against mixing of any cultures, no? Or just the ones you don't like?

If you dont like cultures that let old men 'marry little girls', then you presumably dont want to mix with that culture, and are therefore anti multiculturalism?

The powers that be.
The Government.

I honestly agree with Churchill that "the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter".

The majority of rapes here are committed by white British men simply because they're the majority demographic. When Sky News fact checked Farage's claims about Afghan men they found that they were 'only' 3x more likely to be convicted of a sexual offence than British men.

And whilst we hear a lot about the 'two women a week' there are countries where ten women are murdered every day. Irrespective of the current stats it doesn't make sense to bring in thousands of unvetted men from countries with terrible human rights abuses of women.

This isn't conjecture. 1200 women were sexually assaulted in one night on the very year that Merkel opened the floodgates.

Funnily enough, Im no more likely to be attacked than if I was walking alone in some village or in the countryside.

Said no woman ever in India/Egypt/Eritrea.

Ik what you mean, I’m wondering if anyone will say yes for their dd.

That's your interpretation of those posters - opinion, not fact. Hence, the shutting down of debate. It works both ways.

There’s a few hundred in the millenium hotel in Gatwick for a start

No, being anti- a specific culture is different to being anti-multiculturalism in general as that includes all cultures

People will look around when they're kids are grown and can't afford a place to live due to market rates going further crackers because of this lot and will still be like 'bEiNg AgAiNSt IMmIgRaTiOn iS RaCiSt'.

Meanwhile they're all settled into the local housing stock with their wives and children in tow.

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Some people are pragmatic in that if you've signed up to take in asylum seekers, you have to put them somewhere, and that every county should bear its share.

That doesn't mean people are pro-open borders. Some people are welcoming the sharp fall in immigration numbers. Some are warning that fewer immigrants mean a smaller workforce and a slower economy. People are just trying to navigate a complex situation.

Not only are we importing illegals we are importing disease -

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2222081/migrant-uk-hotel-isolation-deadly-disease

'Hence, the shutting down of debate'

What do you mean by this?

They got rid of 460,000 EU workers and the Tories invited the rest of the world to apply!

One million people who applied to the EU Settlement Scheme were not even born in the EU - the majority born in Asia, Africa and the Americas. A hidden statistic of secondary migration, plus their non-EU family members. For example, people born in Goa before 1961 and their direct descendants are entitled to Portuguese citizenship without ever living in Portugal. Over 55,000 Portuguese nationals resident in the UK were born in India.

The main issue here is that the majority of these men come from countries where they have zero respect for women and girls. It’s the culture and environment they’ve been raised in. Alongside the fact that they’ve not yet been vetted, and the fact they’re fleeing their country could be due to criminal activity, and they’re escaping the authorities. It’s awful and I really feel for you OP. At least if we have to hold these people somewhere, let it be in locked buildings, in the middle of no-where. It’s a recipe for disaster….

Right so we agree, we can say its "just the ones we dont like".

Back in a boat to France.

Of course there are men from 'countries with Sharia law' who come here for tourism or in business. I'm in Kensington / Knightsbridge and there are a lot of Saudis. They own a huge proportion of housing around here. There is a visible Middle Eastern community. It's great actually - they tend to go to cake shops and sit out in the evenings as families, rather than go to pubs and get drunk. I probably feel safer amid them than your average Nigel.

I think some people confuse government regimes with individual human nature. Most of the people scared of 'these men' don't know any Muslim men and have never been to 'those countries.'

Stop being fooled by TR and Farage's divisive and incendiary rhetoric and turn your attention instead to the porn or other 'manosphere' content your sons and other men in your families are no doubt consuming. THAT is what you need to be scared about.