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AIBU to feel helpless about a large asylum camp in our village?

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putupwhatever · 29/06/2026 16:15

My village has been chosen for a 1500 open asylum camp for single men. It will be an open camp (as the men haven't done anything wrong so aren't detained.)

The thing is the village only has 700 people and it is pretty isolated. it's about 10 miles to the nearest city and you can walk to another small village. There is a playpark, a pub and a primary school.

It has to go through planning, but the government have changed the planning laws so that they grant themselves planning and you can't see it as it is deemed sensitive. So they will just grant themselves planning and you can't oppose it without a judicial review--by which time it will probably be already open.

They want to reduce the number of people in hotels. But am AIBU to think that this puts the burden of sorting these issues out on one tiny community? Feels like we are collateral damage to be honest. The community will be outnumbered 2 to 1 and it feels too much. There is nothing for them to do or places to go. Also the fact that it is all single men put in one massive place with no money or means or anything to do is going to lead to problems

Apparently the camps cost £10 less a night than the hotels. But they don't count the set up costs which are astronomical (the one in Essex was £47 million to set up). So it seems like it's not not even cheaper than the problem it is trying to solve but much more expensive.

AIBU to feel a bit helpless? It seems so unfair but there is nothing I can do. We wouldn't be able to move from the village anyway as no one would buy a house here.

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glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 21:32

SpaceRaccoon · 29/06/2026 21:31

They're assimilated. Don't pretend you don't know what I mean.

Being assimilated doesn't mean you don't have a different culture. Say what you mean.

lightseeker · 29/06/2026 21:32

EasternStandard · 29/06/2026 21:30

Ok not London where the tube is pretty full, but in the op’s position you would?

Yes. The worst hassle my girls get is invariably white van men, etc. Walking past a group of men is walking past a group of men.

nomas · 29/06/2026 21:33

SpaceRaccoon · 29/06/2026 21:31

They're assimilated. Don't pretend you don't know what I mean.

So what percentage of UK Muslims do you think are not 'assimilated'? What is your threshold for failure?

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 21:33

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 21:25

It’s the ones who don’t integrate or assimilate and choose not to live by western values. Not hard to understand.

But also, the ones I like, I do not want here.

I don't want to pay fir anyone anymore.
We find ourselves in competition for funding. Healthcare and policing.
Our kids pay for university if you are a refugee it is free. Yes, free. Called a waver. 80 universities offer these.

I don't care anymore. I want them all gone. The good, the bad and the mediocre.

LuckyHazelFox · 29/06/2026 21:33

glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 21:30

But you said the left is shutting down conversation?

I see left leaning people here engaging in the conversation?

I see some of the left finally waking up.

GaIadriel · 29/06/2026 21:33

nomas · 29/06/2026 21:28

Afghan men they found that they were 'only' 3x more likely to be convicted of a sexual offence than British men.

There were 13 rapes by Afghan men in 2024 in the UK. Whilst even one rape is too many and I would welcome action by the government to tackle this, I think your post could be seen as misleading, as actually 10s of 000s of rapes are committed by white men.

And in the Nordic countries I'd imagine most rapes are committed by Nordic men. Why could that possibly be? In the most egalitarian countries in the world. 🤔

On a side note, most car crashes don't involve drunk drivers. That must mean that drunk drivers are less dangerous, right?

Naunet · 29/06/2026 21:33

JuliaBraverman · 29/06/2026 21:25

It’s the ones who don’t integrate or assimilate and choose not to live by western values. Not hard to understand.

No shit, that's my own stance. Thanks so much.

Livelovebehappy · 29/06/2026 21:34

lightseeker · 29/06/2026 21:23

Of course there are men from 'countries with Sharia law' who come here for tourism or in business. I'm in Kensington / Knightsbridge and there are a lot of Saudis. They own a huge proportion of housing around here. There is a visible Middle Eastern community. It's great actually - they tend to go to cake shops and sit out in the evenings as families, rather than go to pubs and get drunk. I probably feel safer amid them than your average Nigel.

I think some people confuse government regimes with individual human nature. Most of the people scared of 'these men' don't know any Muslim men and have never been to 'those countries.'

Stop being fooled by TR and Farage's divisive and incendiary rhetoric and turn your attention instead to the porn or other 'manosphere' content your sons and other men in your families are no doubt consuming. THAT is what you need to be scared about.

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It’s a silly comparison. You’re talking about living in a huge city which is massively diverse anyway with a population of 9million. OPs situation is very far removed from the situation you’re describing.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 29/06/2026 21:35

I suspect all the ones happy for this aren't the ones living in that area. Reminds me of the wealthy middle class who crow about how good multi culturialism is in my area but don't live there.

Dollymylove · 29/06/2026 21:35

lightseeker · 29/06/2026 21:07

Honestly yes. They could out them in hotels around me in London and nobody would even notice. There's millions of tourists here all the time anyway. How can you tell an asylum seeker from a tourist, or from a student, or from a resident when you're out and about in London or other cities? You can't.

Ask the 800 residents of Linton-on-Ouse what they think

EasternStandard · 29/06/2026 21:35

DontBuyAnotherBook · 29/06/2026 21:35

I suspect all the ones happy for this aren't the ones living in that area. Reminds me of the wealthy middle class who crow about how good multi culturialism is in my area but don't live there.

Yes especially the first line.

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 21:36

I'm baffled honestly. No one admits white men don't commit crime. No one dismisses atrocious crimes committed by white men. But why do so many here thread after thread just ignore the clear per capita risk.

Where would you rather your DD do a solo trip Mogadishu or Budapest?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 29/06/2026 21:36

nomas · 29/06/2026 20:52

What does 'pure' mean? White?

You are determined to cause issues aren’t you.
Pure in this sense meaning she was 100% seen as a Londoner.

AClassicTrenchcoat · 29/06/2026 21:36

I feel sick on your behalf. Everyday there are countless crimes being committed by illegal immigrants from backward and misogynistic cultures - rapes, grooming, sexual harassment murder, and to have that amount of young men, many with fake id, roaming around unchecked will massively change the lives of the locals there, particularly the women and girls.

They get freedom to roam meanwhile the females in the area will have to change their lives to try and stay out of range. There will people (white middle class females*) jumping on to defend them but the evidence is already out there on the sheer numbers of them who view western females as things to assault.

  • saw a apt descriptor of white middle class female defenders - suicidal empathisers.
5MinuteArgument · 29/06/2026 21:36

MightyDandelionEsq · 29/06/2026 21:13

Tale as old as time.

”not in my leafy suburb, give them to the working class crap areas”

100% agree and that's why this issue is so toxic. It's the people at the bottom of the pile who end up paying the price.

The govt could fix this if they had the will. Countries like Denmark are showing the way.

nomas · 29/06/2026 21:36

GaIadriel · 29/06/2026 21:33

And in the Nordic countries I'd imagine most rapes are committed by Nordic men. Why could that possibly be? In the most egalitarian countries in the world. 🤔

On a side note, most car crashes don't involve drunk drivers. That must mean that drunk drivers are less dangerous, right?

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13 rapes by Afghan men are one too many but trying to represent them as worse than 140,000 rapes by white men is misleading.

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 21:37

nomas · 29/06/2026 21:14

But people keep saying 'stop importing men', as if any party is doing this. It's not in any of the parties' interests to have visa overstayers.

Net immigration has fallen by 50% since 2024, let the government keep doing their job within the law.

Because the clever people are leaving. My neighbour, a top of his field expert, just moved. Replacing him with a Sudanese illiterate man who speaks no English, is not a win.

nomas · 29/06/2026 21:38

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 21:37

Because the clever people are leaving. My neighbour, a top of his field expert, just moved. Replacing him with a Sudanese illiterate man who speaks no English, is not a win.

Who is making 'clever' people leave? Maybe they're getting out before Farage's reign.

Tauranga · 29/06/2026 21:38

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 21:36

I'm baffled honestly. No one admits white men don't commit crime. No one dismisses atrocious crimes committed by white men. But why do so many here thread after thread just ignore the clear per capita risk.

Where would you rather your DD do a solo trip Mogadishu or Budapest?

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They just cannot be honest with themselves.
The people who consider themselves the most clever and most educated just cannot think for themselves.

GaIadriel · 29/06/2026 21:38

nomas · 29/06/2026 21:30

It's falling though. It's now 28% according to the ICM. Hopefully it will keep coming down.

The survey I saw was at least a decade old so I can believe this.

glitterpaperchain · 29/06/2026 21:38

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 21:36

I'm baffled honestly. No one admits white men don't commit crime. No one dismisses atrocious crimes committed by white men. But why do so many here thread after thread just ignore the clear per capita risk.

Where would you rather your DD do a solo trip Mogadishu or Budapest?

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Everyone dismisses atrocious crimes committed by white men. It's a huge problem. That is often discussed here on MN. Assault, rape, domestic abuse all have terrible sentencing rates.

smallglassbottle · 29/06/2026 21:39

nomas · 29/06/2026 21:21

Some people are pragmatic in that if you've signed up to take in asylum seekers, you have to put them somewhere, and that every county should bear its share.

That doesn't mean people are pro-open borders. Some people are welcoming the sharp fall in immigration numbers. Some are warning that fewer immigrants mean a smaller workforce and a slower economy. People are just trying to navigate a complex situation.

There are no jobs! Read the unemployment thread! Our young people are being flushed down the damn toilet!

Livelovebehappy · 29/06/2026 21:39

GaIadriel · 29/06/2026 21:33

And in the Nordic countries I'd imagine most rapes are committed by Nordic men. Why could that possibly be? In the most egalitarian countries in the world. 🤔

On a side note, most car crashes don't involve drunk drivers. That must mean that drunk drivers are less dangerous, right?

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Agree. I never understand why people trot out the argument that there aren’t as many men in immigrant communities that have raped and murdered, as the indigenous population. Of course there won’t be. You need to calculate in percentages to get a proper picture.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 29/06/2026 21:40

nomas · 29/06/2026 20:53

Gang rapes also have a name in the UK - gang rape. Is that also because they happen often?

What the Pakistani grooming gangs, no there is no specific name just gang rape.

EasternStandard · 29/06/2026 21:40

ISnoggedYourMum · 29/06/2026 21:36

I'm baffled honestly. No one admits white men don't commit crime. No one dismisses atrocious crimes committed by white men. But why do so many here thread after thread just ignore the clear per capita risk.

Where would you rather your DD do a solo trip Mogadishu or Budapest?

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Any views on this from anyone saying the op is being unreasonable

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