ICE agent shoots woman in the face.

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It had to happen; in Minneapolis a woman in a car was shouting at the multiple ICE agents. One tried to open her car door, she started to drive away and was shot 2 (3? 4?) times in the head.

Trump is blaming her. Fucking hell.

EDIT BY MNHQ - Though the footage of this incident is in the public domain, we have removed the link originally included in this thread as we believe it could cause distress.

America is experiencing the rise of fascism. Trump clearly sees himself as a 'strong man' along with Putin and Xi Jinping and is planning on dividing up the world between the three of them. Won't be long before we see the stars and stripes flying over Westminster (I am only half-joking).

Just to point out, that if this woman had been successful in her attempt to run over and kill the officer in front of her car, almost every single post on here would be cheering his death.

Why are you making things up? Why would people cheer someone's death when as you can plainly see, most (decent) people are horrified someone has been mindlessly killed?

If they didn't have guns he'd have just stood out the way and taken her number plate to have her arrested. You can clearly see she was trying to get away, not kill him! If she was aiming for him then why did her vehicle continue to turn? Surely it would have continued going in his direction if that's what she was aiming for?

In fear of his life my arse.

This isn't the shooter, the shooter only has a bandana covering the lower part of his face.
People have been using AI to try and show what his whole face looks like and work out who he is.

This isn't the shooter.

Someone I know s currently facing a manslaughter charge after accidentally killing someone (in self defence) after the person who ended up dead physically attacked them first.

the police and CPS are very much if the mind set that if at any point, even in a split second you could have walked away/walked out of danger rather than physically defend yourself that’s what you should do.

this ICE agent did not need to walk in front of the vehicle, he could have stepped further away. He chose to stand in front, he chose to draw a gun and he chose to shoot an unarmed woman in the head. And his president supports him. Which will embolden all agents to get even more gun happy. I do think in this country he’d have been charged. In the US he will probably get a medal.

No. You can’t. You’re a fucking liar.

Okay explain this. If that was shot from the front of the vehicle it would have missed her head wouldn't it? And the drivers side window has been shot out, and that was definitely shot at from the side.

They're not police.

Nobody is saying cops have an inalienable right to kill people. They’re saying that if you do not follow the instructions that an armed police officer is shouting at you then your risk of being shot is greatly increased, particularly in the US where it is well-known that they shoot first and ask questions later.

Police routinely stand in front of vehicles or physically intercept them. It’s not the same as a member of the public doing it. Look at PC Harper.

Words matter. Sped? She sped towards him? She sped. towards him.

Those words conjure up an entirely different image to that seen in the video.

Other angles of the same moment appear to show him leaning over her bonnet to get a better aim, which lines up with witness statements.

Taking some time off from polishing your guns and rearranging your MAGA hat collection to post on Mumsnet then?

Sure, but they leap,out the way at the last minute rather than shoot someone. The exception being if they think the motorist is armed, or a terrorist.

Do any of the witness statements (from people actually there) support ICE's actions?

I've not seen any, but it is impossible to read all of the news articles.

All the witnesses I've seen condemn ICE's actions.

Yes. The only point that vehicle picks up speed is after she has been shot, no one is controlling the vehicle and it rolls away and crashes.

They had just moved to Minneapolis. Returned home after dropping off her 6 year old at school and saw ICE harrassing their new neighbours and started filming it.

All legal

ICE prevented a doctor attending to her

Cause more damage? More damage than shooting somebody right in the face?

After some school shooting a few years ago a friend of mine summed up the USA in a few words : ' It's an open air asylum '

As far as I am concerned no amount of political analysis or commentary can improve upon that bleak verdict.

A fair few posters on the RN Good threads NC'd or just joined last night.

Ah sorry to disappoint you but I’m a British citizen!

This is fucking disgusting. And it is disgusting MNHQ is not doing anything about such posts.

In fairness to MNHQ I imagine this thread is going to keep them busy and that post is minutes old.

I think a load of right wing Americans - ironically enough - ended up here through the 'feminism'/gender-critical pages too.

I watched it with the sound down - so I could see what was there and not be infuluence by being told what I was supposed to see.

I do see an agent in one clip in the way of car and push against it and jump back. He may have been trying to stop her moving - but I still don't see a dramatic lifted off feet justifying shooting a USA citizen - a see poorly trained state employees badly handling and escalating a previously managable situation.

But this is the USA where prosecution immunity exists for many in law enforcement they often have very little training buit have to face an armed population and there are many outragous examples of dire policing across the country visible on-line.

Maybe that is enough to justify shooting a citizen in the face in the US and the world is watching that level of incompetent and corruption being justified.