Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

ICE agent shoots woman in the face.

1000 replies

Eyesopenwideawake · 07/01/2026 21:18

It had to happen; in Minneapolis a woman in a car was shouting at the multiple ICE agents. One tried to open her car door, she started to drive away and was shot 2 (3? 4?) times in the head.

Trump is blaming her. Fucking hell.

EDIT BY MNHQ - Though the footage of this incident is in the public domain, we have removed the link originally included in this thread as we believe it could cause distress.

ICE officer fatally shoots driver in Minneapolis

Video taken by bystander Caitlin Callenson shows an ICE officer fatally shooting a driver in Minneapolis on Jan. 7, 2026.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9CJY5p0xz4

OP posts:
Thread gallery
33
RingoJuice · 08/01/2026 06:06

These protestors need to let ICE do their jobs. I fucking voted for mass deportations and it angers me that people like this think they have a right to stop this process.

She’s out there yelling in the neighborhood that ‘ICE is coming’ and blocking ICE vehicles. Most likely she didn’t intend to run him over BUT how could he have known? Tragic that she is dead as she has a child but this was absolutely insane.

YourGiddyGreyHelper · 08/01/2026 06:06

This is a lie. You should rightly be condemned for this post.

Pillypolly · 08/01/2026 06:07

mjf981 · 08/01/2026 06:01

I think the fact that people are defending this murderer is the most mind boggling thing I have ever come across. She was clearly just trying to get away. He stepped in front of her car and shot her. Then came around the side of the car and shot her through the side window again. Then walked off as though all was fine.

How can you claim any different? Am I living in an alternative universe? What is happening??!

I think it’s mind boggling too and I think there are two alternate universes these days.

Justlostmybagel · 08/01/2026 06:08

SoftBalletShoes · 08/01/2026 05:52

I slowed the YouTube footage right down, and she had to drive forward a few inches in order to turn right. She wasn't driving at him. Even if he thought she was, she was travelling at about 1 mile an hour and he could easily have stepped out of the way.

This was a completely needless murder.

Sorry, but I disagree with your interpretation of the video.

AliceandOscar · 08/01/2026 06:17

Justlostmybagel · 08/01/2026 06:08

Sorry, but I disagree with your interpretation of the video.

This is the woman you are talking about, a woman who drove a car full of toys for her child and you are claiming that she deserves to die.
Shame on you

2021x · 08/01/2026 06:19

AliceandOscar · 08/01/2026 06:17

This is the woman you are talking about, a woman who drove a car full of toys for her child and you are claiming that she deserves to die.
Shame on you

Noone thinks this woman deserved to die. She is driving a car towards someone with a gun- the person with the gun could have understandably felt their life was in danger and defended themself.

Justlostmybagel · 08/01/2026 06:21

AliceandOscar · 08/01/2026 06:17

This is the woman you are talking about, a woman who drove a car full of toys for her child and you are claiming that she deserves to die.
Shame on you

Nowhere did I say she deserves to die. Shame on you for your massive hyperbole.

SwissChaletPatriot · 08/01/2026 06:27

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

SoftBalletShoes · 08/01/2026 06:27

Justlostmybagel · 08/01/2026 06:08

Sorry, but I disagree with your interpretation of the video.

You don't think that, with her going at a snail's pace, he had time to just step out of the way of those few inches she had to move forward in order to turn right?

Ihavelostthegame · 08/01/2026 06:29

RingoJuice · 08/01/2026 06:06

These protestors need to let ICE do their jobs. I fucking voted for mass deportations and it angers me that people like this think they have a right to stop this process.

She’s out there yelling in the neighborhood that ‘ICE is coming’ and blocking ICE vehicles. Most likely she didn’t intend to run him over BUT how could he have known? Tragic that she is dead as she has a child but this was absolutely insane.

What ICE are currently doing in the US is disgusting. They are a bunch of thugs. Immigrants create a very valuable part of society. They do essential work. They pay taxes and contribute to society in so so many ways. The racist bullshit propaganda spewed out by the hard right across the globe is vile and full of lies and hatred.
You would do well to remember that the white man in America was once too an immigrant. You have no more right than anyone else to live on this planet. You have no right to dictate who does or does not live in any country. And you certainly do not have the right to demand that a bunch of thugs be given free rein to terrorise communities who have done nothing wrong.

Justlostmybagel · 08/01/2026 06:42

SoftBalletShoes · 08/01/2026 06:27

You don't think that, with her going at a snail's pace, he had time to just step out of the way of those few inches she had to move forward in order to turn right?

Edited

She doesn't look like she's going that slow to me. She still clips his leg as she's trying to drive off.

Police shootings are generally horrifying to me, unless it's something like stopping a gunman. But she put herself in a very dangerous situation here and made some very bad decisions. It wasn't a clear cut shooting but I don't think it was completely unjustifiable.

I've just read the the ICE officer, involved in this, had previously been struck and dragged 300m by a car in another incident so he was clearly jumpy over that.

RingoJuice · 08/01/2026 06:46

AliceandOscar · 08/01/2026 06:17

This is the woman you are talking about, a woman who drove a car full of toys for her child and you are claiming that she deserves to die.
Shame on you

She likely was not trying to run him over but how was he to know? ICE agents have been dragged by cars before.

She should not have been trying to block ICE enforcement activities, many like myself are supportive of ICE, who is she to interfere?

Coffeeandbooks88 · 08/01/2026 06:54

RingoJuice · 08/01/2026 06:06

These protestors need to let ICE do their jobs. I fucking voted for mass deportations and it angers me that people like this think they have a right to stop this process.

She’s out there yelling in the neighborhood that ‘ICE is coming’ and blocking ICE vehicles. Most likely she didn’t intend to run him over BUT how could he have known? Tragic that she is dead as she has a child but this was absolutely insane.

Imagine admitting that. Idiot.

Alexandra2001 · 08/01/2026 06:55

RingoJuice · 08/01/2026 06:06

These protestors need to let ICE do their jobs. I fucking voted for mass deportations and it angers me that people like this think they have a right to stop this process.

She’s out there yelling in the neighborhood that ‘ICE is coming’ and blocking ICE vehicles. Most likely she didn’t intend to run him over BUT how could he have known? Tragic that she is dead as she has a child but this was absolutely insane.

Your country is a dictatorship now, with no checks or balances, no different from China or Russia.

Says a great deal that you voted for this and now agree she deserved to die.

Just watched the video, she was driving away from the gunmen, he was side on to her car and he was in no danger at all, cold blooded murder, absolutely shocking how far the US has fallen, supported by morons.

SoftBalletShoes · 08/01/2026 06:56

Justlostmybagel · 08/01/2026 06:42

She doesn't look like she's going that slow to me. She still clips his leg as she's trying to drive off.

Police shootings are generally horrifying to me, unless it's something like stopping a gunman. But she put herself in a very dangerous situation here and made some very bad decisions. It wasn't a clear cut shooting but I don't think it was completely unjustifiable.

I've just read the the ICE officer, involved in this, had previously been struck and dragged 300m by a car in another incident so he was clearly jumpy over that.

When I slowed the video right down, I can see that she ran over his toe. But the fact that he remained standing and didn't even stumble should indicate that he wasn't being run over.

In the video, the officer who tries to drag her out of her car is very aggressive. He walks over to her angrily and says "Get out of the fucking car." I think she was also spooked and trying to get away.

In hindsight, she did put herself into a dangerous situation. But she probably never, in her wildest dreams, thought she would be blasted in the face and killed because she had to move forward a few inches to turn right.

It was just SO brutal. 😢

justasking111 · 08/01/2026 06:56

Pillypolly · 08/01/2026 06:07

I think it’s mind boggling too and I think there are two alternate universes these days.

When I read the other week of two men walking their dogs in a park in the USA these dogs got into a fight, one owner pulled out a gun to shoot the dog, the other owner objects so he's shot and dies it reminds me that a gun carrying society will use them .

mumofoneAloneandwell · 08/01/2026 06:56

crumpetswithcheeze · 08/01/2026 01:35

Did you not feel embarrassed typing that?

No.

RingoJuice · 08/01/2026 06:57

What ICE are currently doing in the US is disgusting

I voted for it. We have 20 million illegal immigrants in America. How else do we get them to leave, strongly worded letters?

Immigrants create a very valuable part of society. They do essential work. They pay taxes and contribute to society in so so many ways

Some legal immigration is fine. But illegal immigrants are absolutely NOT ok. They work under the table for the most part so it’s not like they pay taxes (and if they did somehow get a TIN it doesn’t make them legal in any way)

You would do well to remember that the white man in America was once too an immigrant

The ‘white man’ did not immigrate, there was no ‘America’ to emigrate to.

You have no more right than anyone else to live on this planet

I certainly have more rights to live in the country called America, it’s my homeland. I don’t have any rights to live in the UK or anywhere else for that matter. I need permission from your government.

You have no right to dictate who does or does not live in any country

We actually do. All countries have a set procedure for legal immigration. And you can change it as suits you.

a bunch of thugs be given free rein to terrorise communities who have done nothing wrong

They illegally crossed a border or overstayed a visa. So yeah, they did something wrong.

2021x · 08/01/2026 06:57

Alexandra2001 · 08/01/2026 06:55

Your country is a dictatorship now, with no checks or balances, no different from China or Russia.

Says a great deal that you voted for this and now agree she deserved to die.

Just watched the video, she was driving away from the gunmen, he was side on to her car and he was in no danger at all, cold blooded murder, absolutely shocking how far the US has fallen, supported by morons.

Alternative Facts

You are as bad as Trump

Ihavelostthegame · 08/01/2026 06:58

Justlostmybagel · 08/01/2026 06:42

She doesn't look like she's going that slow to me. She still clips his leg as she's trying to drive off.

Police shootings are generally horrifying to me, unless it's something like stopping a gunman. But she put herself in a very dangerous situation here and made some very bad decisions. It wasn't a clear cut shooting but I don't think it was completely unjustifiable.

I've just read the the ICE officer, involved in this, had previously been struck and dragged 300m by a car in another incident so he was clearly jumpy over that.

How fast do you think she can possibly be going she was just moving off. He shoots her within a second or two of her moving forward. She cannot possibly be doing more than 5mph. The road was icy too so probably even less.

And if you don’t want to be hit by vehicles don’t jump in front of them. If what you say is true and he had a previous experience of being confront of a moving vehicle he seriously needs to look at why he is putting himself in dangerous situations! He clearly is very poorly trained .

RingoJuice · 08/01/2026 06:59

Alexandra2001 · 08/01/2026 06:55

Your country is a dictatorship now, with no checks or balances, no different from China or Russia.

Says a great deal that you voted for this and now agree she deserved to die.

Just watched the video, she was driving away from the gunmen, he was side on to her car and he was in no danger at all, cold blooded murder, absolutely shocking how far the US has fallen, supported by morons.

Trump can’t do half of what I want him to do because of federal judges and you want to tell me that America is a dictatorship?

I have lived in dictatorships. I have lived in Islamic Emirates too. I know the difference. YOU do not.

Alexandra2001 · 08/01/2026 07:01

You have no more right than anyone else to live on this planet

I certainly have more rights to live in the country called America, it’s my homeland. I don’t have any rights to live in the UK or anywhere else for that matter. I need permission from your government

Well, Trump doesn't seem to think that, he has tried to take control of one country and is threatening force to take over another...... with no permission required.
He also thinks Russia is right to "try" and seize Ukraine too.

2021x · 08/01/2026 07:01

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Alexandra2001 · 08/01/2026 07:05

RingoJuice · 08/01/2026 06:59

Trump can’t do half of what I want him to do because of federal judges and you want to tell me that America is a dictatorship?

I have lived in dictatorships. I have lived in Islamic Emirates too. I know the difference. YOU do not.

Yep because the courts are not stopping him, as well you know, no one is, he is doing what he wants, military action, kidnapping a countries leader, withdrawal from 66 international bodies, threatening a NATO country with invasion....

You are no better than he is.

Ihavelostthegame · 08/01/2026 07:05

RingoJuice · 08/01/2026 06:57

What ICE are currently doing in the US is disgusting

I voted for it. We have 20 million illegal immigrants in America. How else do we get them to leave, strongly worded letters?

Immigrants create a very valuable part of society. They do essential work. They pay taxes and contribute to society in so so many ways

Some legal immigration is fine. But illegal immigrants are absolutely NOT ok. They work under the table for the most part so it’s not like they pay taxes (and if they did somehow get a TIN it doesn’t make them legal in any way)

You would do well to remember that the white man in America was once too an immigrant

The ‘white man’ did not immigrate, there was no ‘America’ to emigrate to.

You have no more right than anyone else to live on this planet

I certainly have more rights to live in the country called America, it’s my homeland. I don’t have any rights to live in the UK or anywhere else for that matter. I need permission from your government.

You have no right to dictate who does or does not live in any country

We actually do. All countries have a set procedure for legal immigration. And you can change it as suits you.

a bunch of thugs be given free rein to terrorise communities who have done nothing wrong

They illegally crossed a border or overstayed a visa. So yeah, they did something wrong.

If I respond how I want to I will be kicked off this forum.

You seriously need to properly look at what these thugs are doing. And they are thugs. On par with the nazi scum terrorising Europe in the 1930s.

There are plenty of ways of removing people who are in countries illegally without using the tactics of ICE.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.