To think this is a shocking waste of taxpayer’s money??

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Not the boy having some form of placement or help of course, but 300k for a little over 4 months! I’m sure this will be ‘controversial’ but I think we need to seriously rethink how much can be spent on just 1 person, unless (for example) they need round the clock nursing care to stay alive and specialist medical equipment of course.

A large amount of the cost of school residential placements is care. My son's day placement was £80 k including therapies and individual transport.
Care for people with complex needs is expensive whether it is in a placement or carers coming into the family home.

If a school residential placement is funded it will either be that the child's needs have become too great to live at home and/or no local ( within 90 mins) school is suitable which generally means with those with complex needs that no local school will take them.

Well that’s where it’s all gone wrong…..

I repeat again, what is she being TAUGHT for £250k (minus full-board)?

What needs cost £250k?
The taxpayer is being robbed!

You think it would be cheaper to force parents out of their jobs and force them to home educate their severely disabled child with no respite?

No other parents are forced to home educate. It would be discrimination.

You know what gets taught in schools. Why do you keep asking this??

What the deleted poster means is that she expects parents to care for and educate their child with very complex needs, who may need to 2 or 3 to 1 professional support for 24 hours a day.

Can you stop asking stupid questions and educate yourself on complex needs.

plenty of posters have already listed the huge amount of expertise that are required to support children and adults. Their needs are vast!

You don’t need to repeat. I have answered you. As I said and to expand, SALT, OT (including SIOT), physio (including things such as hydrotherapy, rebound therapy), ToD, QTVI, EP… input are all part of education. As is things like emotional regulation, interaction with others and the world, ADLs, PfA…

Given the average tax payer pays less tax than they cost overall, it seems a lot cheaper than £250k per year, for the kid to be at home.

Ok so I couldn’t teach my DC A level physics.

There are various needs that cost that much to meet.

DS1’s provision costs more than £250k. He has a complex mix of physical, medical, developmental and psychological disabilities.

Bring back Borstal training

I struggle to believe that NHS appointments for those items would cost more than £250k.

So what about the schooling part?

Sorry, I can’t get past the £250k. For what benefit I am still in the dark.

Looking at the votes of 83% YANBU for the original post, seem most agree.

For what end game?

Care alone can be £100 an hour.

I have answered your ‘to what end game’ question.

NHS appointments alone can’t meet needs of many with complex needs. Struggle to believe it all you want. All you are doing is highlighting your own ignorance.

They are part of the schooling part. Why do you think things like learning communication skills aren’t? As are things like literacy and numeracy.

And as point out earlier in the thread, the case in the OP wasn’t about an educational placement.

I can imagine what it costs given some of the amounts mentioned in this thread. Bit it is not a good use of money.

With respect you haven’t answered the question.

You have told me about each item/input of service (sounds mostly physical tbh) and the different names of therapies.

When they leave the “school” then what? That’s the end game. When does the taxpayer money saving kick in?

Writing with respect doesn’t mean you have respect. You don’t.

Yes, I have when I told you the right provision can be the difference between:
Needing 1:1 or 2:1 (or even 3:1 or 4:1) as an adult.
A residential placement being needed or a placement within the community.
An ordinary residential placement or a secure placement.
Someone needing prolonged hospital stays in the future or not.
24/7 care or only care for some of the time.
Contact with the justice system and not.
Being eligible for CHC funding or not.

They aren’t mostly physical. The fact you think that shows your lack of understanding.

To survive, learn, be happy and have a good quality of life.

like everyone deserves.

you clearly don’t think that the lives of people with complex needs are “worth it”.

If someone needs 3:1 care that is what it costs as a minimum. If specialist support is required 2:1 may cost £100.

Maybe we should encourage all parents to home school then, save the entire education budget?

And then factor in the subsequent economic and human cost of the fallout of the borstal system, run with no healthcare, safeguarding or mental health provision, no oversight or complaints processes or staff training.

pp has answered the question. You just have a narrow view of what education means.

Some children who aren't disabled aren't academic, should their parents be forced to home educate too? Plenty of children who aren't academic don't pass their English and Maths GCSE's but they are still allowed to be educated.

He will probably end up in prison after harming others, whatever they do.