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anonymouselephantx · 11/09/2025 11:38

Mumsnet has been deleting any comment at all that criticises Charlie Kirk... just because he has died does not mean he is infallible. He is still an evil person who did and said evil things, contributed to so much suffering of families at the hands of ICE etc., mocked the Palestinians undergoing a genocide? Mumsnet, disturbing much? I had to get MN by email to delete a thread of mine as I was getting bullied and people were making personal attacks against me (the talk guidelines say personal attacks will be deleted, yet I had to BEG for this), but they are censoring anything anyone says about Charlie Kirk? Why are we not allowed to have freedom of speech and freedom to debate, especially when it is someone who did and said SO MUCH EVIL!

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IGaveSoManySigns · 13/09/2025 13:34

Gloriia · 13/09/2025 12:27

The comments about black pilots are regarding DEI though. Are they there because they are the best candidate or to fulfil DEI requirements?

We've just had a perfect example in this country. The 'president' of the Oxford Union, a prestigious debating society got ABB at A level. To get into Oxford you need generally AAA or more likely A*. He clearly wasn't best qualified or the best candidate was he but he got in via a DEI cheat thing. It is ok to challenge that.

Disclaimer I haven't watched the full 8mins of the clip.

Oxford are quite well known for giving contextual offers based on extracurricular activities and performance at interview. Because they recognise that someone might not excel in the rigid structure of a-level exams but may well thrive in an environment like Oxford.

IGaveSoManySigns · 13/09/2025 13:34

Locutus2000 · 13/09/2025 13:34

'The right are being silenced!'

It does make me laugh that they say they’re being silenced when there’s literally a million of them marching today in London

GetOffMyLan · 13/09/2025 14:53

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 13/09/2025 12:26

Mmm if the level of your post is indicative of what you see as a good argument and a good example of debating skills, I can see the problem!!!!

I'm not debating, do you need a dictionary dear?

ElatedShark · 13/09/2025 15:37

Freedom of speech is only meant to be for a certain demographic, we are marching in London to protect that right. If it was for everyone, we'd have to listen to speeches by radical Muslims and that. Kirk was just trying to bring the world back into order and poor guy was killed for it

Underthinker · 13/09/2025 16:28

Locutus2000 · 13/09/2025 13:32

Nit-picking one or two lines doesn't change the substance of Kirk's own words.

If you can't see the difference between calling a black woman stupid and saying all black women are stupid I dont know what to tell you.

CurlewKate · 13/09/2025 16:31

“Back into order” So women deferring to men. No abortion, even for a 10 year old raped child. Gay relationships being illegal. For starters.

CurlewKate · 13/09/2025 16:32

Underthinker · 13/09/2025 16:28

If you can't see the difference between calling a black woman stupid and saying all black women are stupid I dont know what to tell you.

He named 4 highly intelligent, highly educated black women. Including Michelle Obama.

Underthinker · 13/09/2025 16:53

CurlewKate · 13/09/2025 16:32

He named 4 highly intelligent, highly educated black women. Including Michelle Obama.

IIRC he named 4, then played a video clip of one of them saying she was helped into college by affirmative action, and then directed the jibe about lacking brain power at her.
I might agree this is obnoxious conduct, but I don't agree he was saying all black women lack brain power. So it should make you wonder, if he was that bad, why use fake quotes? (The stoning gays quote was false too.) It suggests that the people creating these little lists to share around on reddit or bluesky knew they were fake, and thought an accurate list of his statements wouldn't achieve the desired effect- and the desired effect was to justify his murder.

Vivi0 · 13/09/2025 16:59

Locutus2000 · 13/09/2025 13:34

'The right are being silenced!'

I suppose it could be worse. They could have been shot dead.

lkjhgfdsa · 13/09/2025 17:12

Underthinker · 13/09/2025 16:53

IIRC he named 4, then played a video clip of one of them saying she was helped into college by affirmative action, and then directed the jibe about lacking brain power at her.
I might agree this is obnoxious conduct, but I don't agree he was saying all black women lack brain power. So it should make you wonder, if he was that bad, why use fake quotes? (The stoning gays quote was false too.) It suggests that the people creating these little lists to share around on reddit or bluesky knew they were fake, and thought an accurate list of his statements wouldn't achieve the desired effect- and the desired effect was to justify his murder.

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You remember wrong. That is not what happened. It's literally all in the first 35 seconds of this video which I have shared repeatedly on this thread. He names all four. Talks about them being where they are due to affirmative action. Then makes his comments about brain power. It is very clearly about all four of them. Women who demonstrably have plenty of brain power.

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lkjhgfdsa · 13/09/2025 17:24

Underthinker · 13/09/2025 16:53

IIRC he named 4, then played a video clip of one of them saying she was helped into college by affirmative action, and then directed the jibe about lacking brain power at her.
I might agree this is obnoxious conduct, but I don't agree he was saying all black women lack brain power. So it should make you wonder, if he was that bad, why use fake quotes? (The stoning gays quote was false too.) It suggests that the people creating these little lists to share around on reddit or bluesky knew they were fake, and thought an accurate list of his statements wouldn't achieve the desired effect- and the desired effect was to justify his murder.

This is a video compilation of him actually saying things. Not quotes.

Listen to the disdain with which he says "black lesbian!" He clearly finds it impossible to believe a black lesbian could also be a capable, educated human being.

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CurlewKate · 13/09/2025 17:54

Underthinker · 13/09/2025 16:53

IIRC he named 4, then played a video clip of one of them saying she was helped into college by affirmative action, and then directed the jibe about lacking brain power at her.
I might agree this is obnoxious conduct, but I don't agree he was saying all black women lack brain power. So it should make you wonder, if he was that bad, why use fake quotes? (The stoning gays quote was false too.) It suggests that the people creating these little lists to share around on reddit or bluesky knew they were fake, and thought an accurate list of his statements wouldn't achieve the desired effect- and the desired effect was to justify his murder.

So why did he name the other 3? The stoning gays I agree was exaggerated, although he did mention Leviticus…

Underthinker · 13/09/2025 18:33

Not just exaggerated, completely twisted to make a homophobic point he wasn't making. And as above, whether he was insulting 4 specific women or 1 (i think 1 if you watch the whole clip but its not really relevant) he obviously wasn't making a point about all black women. So why are these threads, and the rest of social media awash with this stuff? Why not just cririticise him for the actual things he said and not the made up ones? Or even better, why not stay quiet for a couple of days without sticking the boot in?

ColourThief · 13/09/2025 18:45

anonymouselephantx · 11/09/2025 11:38

Mumsnet has been deleting any comment at all that criticises Charlie Kirk... just because he has died does not mean he is infallible. He is still an evil person who did and said evil things, contributed to so much suffering of families at the hands of ICE etc., mocked the Palestinians undergoing a genocide? Mumsnet, disturbing much? I had to get MN by email to delete a thread of mine as I was getting bullied and people were making personal attacks against me (the talk guidelines say personal attacks will be deleted, yet I had to BEG for this), but they are censoring anything anyone says about Charlie Kirk? Why are we not allowed to have freedom of speech and freedom to debate, especially when it is someone who did and said SO MUCH EVIL!

Not RTFT but I totally agree with you on censorship.
I actually emailed mumsnet back when they removed a comment of mine defending trans people and they tried to defend their decision with utter rubbish.
They still do it, I’m constantly getting my comments reported and deleted (the fault also lies with the people reporting them, apparently they can say what they like but not me) but I’ve given up now for the most part.

It won’t change.

lkjhgfdsa · 13/09/2025 18:56

Underthinker · 13/09/2025 18:33

Not just exaggerated, completely twisted to make a homophobic point he wasn't making. And as above, whether he was insulting 4 specific women or 1 (i think 1 if you watch the whole clip but its not really relevant) he obviously wasn't making a point about all black women. So why are these threads, and the rest of social media awash with this stuff? Why not just cririticise him for the actual things he said and not the made up ones? Or even better, why not stay quiet for a couple of days without sticking the boot in?

You literally just need to watch the first 35 seconds of the clip above to see it was all four. All of them highly educated and high achieving women. What characteristic do you think he is basing his assertion about brain power on? It clearly isn't based on their actual brain power.

Underthinker · 13/09/2025 21:09

@lkjhgfdsa

Your clip is edited differently to the one I saw. It has the same elements but in a different order which changes the intention and emphasis. Regardless, He is attacking affirmative action, a common target in his videos.
What he isn't doing, is saying all black women lack brain power.

Merrygolden · 13/09/2025 21:09

@Pandorasocks how many times can you mention Yaxley-Lennon? It's quite weird you get it into all your posts. It smacks of obsession..

Merrygolden · 13/09/2025 21:12

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Didn’t sound silent? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Merrygolden · 13/09/2025 21:18

SleeplessInWherever · 13/09/2025 21:15

Didn’t sound silent? 🤷🏻‍♀️

So they had a voice in a freedom assembly. Going by the same rules applied to any other group. Your point is?

SleeplessInWherever · 13/09/2025 21:23

Merrygolden · 13/09/2025 21:18

So they had a voice in a freedom assembly. Going by the same rules applied to any other group. Your point is?

That they were loudly marching about being silent.

PandoraSocks · 13/09/2025 21:27

Merrygolden · 13/09/2025 21:09

@Pandorasocks how many times can you mention Yaxley-Lennon? It's quite weird you get it into all your posts. It smacks of obsession..

What?! I made I think one post on this thread two days ago and that didn't mention Yaxley-Lennon?

anonymouselephantx · 13/09/2025 22:25

Kirk literally said and I quote: ABORTION IS WORSE THAN THE HOLOCAUST

How is anyone saying he was a good person? The same people in this thread who slated me for comparing him to Hitler, yet he said that abortiom is WORSE than the holocaust (I didn’t even compare him to Hitler. I just said if Hitler was alive today and died, these people would also say “he’s a family man! No one should be killed for their political views”!)

btw - politics did not kill Kirk. Guns did.

his killer was a conservative white 22 year old male.

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RowanRed90 · 13/09/2025 23:07

CurlewKate · 13/09/2025 07:28

We have no idea why he was killed.

You're right, it was maybe a false flag

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