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anonymouselephantx · 11/09/2025 11:38

Mumsnet has been deleting any comment at all that criticises Charlie Kirk... just because he has died does not mean he is infallible. He is still an evil person who did and said evil things, contributed to so much suffering of families at the hands of ICE etc., mocked the Palestinians undergoing a genocide? Mumsnet, disturbing much? I had to get MN by email to delete a thread of mine as I was getting bullied and people were making personal attacks against me (the talk guidelines say personal attacks will be deleted, yet I had to BEG for this), but they are censoring anything anyone says about Charlie Kirk? Why are we not allowed to have freedom of speech and freedom to debate, especially when it is someone who did and said SO MUCH EVIL!

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Justagirl95 · 11/09/2025 20:09

Hitler was an incredibly charismatic man who enjoyed a "debate" too.

Tbf, judging by the responses from this thread I'm sure there would be a lot of "ordinary Germans" who were "just following orders"

Enjoy your night 😘❤️

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/09/2025 20:11

KhakiTiger · 11/09/2025 19:02

The lemmings in this country don’t mind lying on stretchers and trolleys in A&E for hours screaming in pain and dying due to undiagnosed conditions because they can’t medical treatment. As long as this is ‘free’.

Whereas the lemmings in the US are happy to lie screaming in pain at home because the unqualified death panel in their health insurance company has refused their claim and so they don't get the treatment their doctor has said they need.

As long as they can pretend that they're living in the "land of the free".

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/09/2025 20:13

YouveGotNoBloodyIdea · 11/09/2025 19:43

On this I am fully in agreement with Charlie Kirk

Absolutely. I well remember how sympathetic many on the right - Charlie Kirk included - were when George Floyd was killed.

KitTea3 · 11/09/2025 20:20

I would love to show empathy as I usually would when people die but he wouldn't have wanted that....

In his own words
"I can't stand the word empathy, actually I think empathy is a made up, new age term, that does a lot of damage "

I feel terribly sorry for his kids and family though, because that footage is online and they should never ever see that. No one should.

In terms if gun control, he was all for guns and everyone having the right to bear arms, unfortunately one of the consequences of such free access is needless deaths*. But I don't think this will change the US stance, if anything it will just make him a martyr to the pro gun lobby.

*I'm not saying in anyway he deserved that just pointing out that death from guns occur more frequently when guns are legal and he fully supported that. He even said himself that gun deaths were unfortunately worth it to keep the second amendment

IGaveSoManySigns · 11/09/2025 20:27

Serpentstooth · 11/09/2025 19:45

And don't forget us breeders. We girls are here too, just queuing up to bear those many babies for those nice guys like kirk, proper, masculine, straight, white males. By the way anti-choice fans, what plans for those babies you've forced into life. Who's taking care of them? I suppose we'll return to the days of leaving unwanted babies on doorsteps? Great planning.

Well I was told that feckless people will always be feckless and so don’t deserve support 🙃

Vivi0 · 11/09/2025 20:29

KitTea3 · 11/09/2025 20:20

I would love to show empathy as I usually would when people die but he wouldn't have wanted that....

In his own words
"I can't stand the word empathy, actually I think empathy is a made up, new age term, that does a lot of damage "

I feel terribly sorry for his kids and family though, because that footage is online and they should never ever see that. No one should.

In terms if gun control, he was all for guns and everyone having the right to bear arms, unfortunately one of the consequences of such free access is needless deaths*. But I don't think this will change the US stance, if anything it will just make him a martyr to the pro gun lobby.

*I'm not saying in anyway he deserved that just pointing out that death from guns occur more frequently when guns are legal and he fully supported that. He even said himself that gun deaths were unfortunately worth it to keep the second amendment

I would love to show empathy as I usually would when people die but he wouldn't have wanted that....

In his own words
I can't stand the word empathy, actually I think empathy is a made up, new age term, that does a lot of damage "

How convenient of you to leave out the rest of his statement:

“I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that, it does a lot of damage. But, it is very effective when it comes to politics. Sympathy, I prefer more than empathy. That's a separate topic for a different time.”

He said that he prefers the word sympathy to empathy.

But hey, don’t let a bit of context get in the way…

Peteryourhorseisheree · 11/09/2025 20:30

KitTea3 · 11/09/2025 20:20

I would love to show empathy as I usually would when people die but he wouldn't have wanted that....

In his own words
"I can't stand the word empathy, actually I think empathy is a made up, new age term, that does a lot of damage "

I feel terribly sorry for his kids and family though, because that footage is online and they should never ever see that. No one should.

In terms if gun control, he was all for guns and everyone having the right to bear arms, unfortunately one of the consequences of such free access is needless deaths*. But I don't think this will change the US stance, if anything it will just make him a martyr to the pro gun lobby.

*I'm not saying in anyway he deserved that just pointing out that death from guns occur more frequently when guns are legal and he fully supported that. He even said himself that gun deaths were unfortunately worth it to keep the second amendment

Would you like a bit of context for that?

That is a screen shot from Reddit as I am short on time, but you can watch the whole clip for yourself on YouTube.

People have taken one sentence out of context and run with it.

Mumsnet censorship
IGaveSoManySigns · 11/09/2025 20:31

Multiple historically black colleges and universities have had to shut today due to threats. But of course, it’s the right who are oh so tolerant

Peteryourhorseisheree · 11/09/2025 20:31

Vivi0 · 11/09/2025 20:29

I would love to show empathy as I usually would when people die but he wouldn't have wanted that....

In his own words
I can't stand the word empathy, actually I think empathy is a made up, new age term, that does a lot of damage "

How convenient of you to leave out the rest of his statement:

“I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that, it does a lot of damage. But, it is very effective when it comes to politics. Sympathy, I prefer more than empathy. That's a separate topic for a different time.”

He said that he prefers the word sympathy to empathy.

But hey, don’t let a bit of context get in the way…

Ha, I cross posted with you!

It bugs the living shit out of me when people take a snippet out of context and twist it to suit a narrative. That’s happened with this over and over today.

bruffin · 11/09/2025 20:37

IGaveSoManySigns · 11/09/2025 20:31

Multiple historically black colleges and universities have had to shut today due to threats. But of course, it’s the right who are oh so tolerant

hypocracy from the left as usual.

SunnySideDeepDown · 11/09/2025 20:41

Worktillate · 11/09/2025 18:26

Tell his wife and kids that.

What you seem to be saying is that because he stated his views that were different to yours it's better that he is dead? Whilst I didn't agree with all his views, I do agree with some - does this mean I should be waiting for someone to come and do me in and everyone should be okay with it?

He was a young man trying to open the avenues of debate between people. Yes, his views were conservative but I think it's appalling to suggest that the world is a better place without him in it because of this

I think loads of things I wouldn’t say to someone’s face though. Literally everyone does, including you.

Arent you glad Hitler died? I also wish every paedophile and child abuser dropped dead and I’d be very happy to facilitate it.

Bad, immoral and dangerous people don’t deserve a place in this world.

Gloriia · 11/09/2025 20:44

'But MN ate me alive for simply saying if hitler was alive today they’d also have “empathy” for him.'

No-one 'ate you alive'. How very dramatic. You were challenged and corrected as you have been throughout.

Vivi0 · 11/09/2025 20:47

SunnySideDeepDown · 11/09/2025 20:41

I think loads of things I wouldn’t say to someone’s face though. Literally everyone does, including you.

Arent you glad Hitler died? I also wish every paedophile and child abuser dropped dead and I’d be very happy to facilitate it.

Bad, immoral and dangerous people don’t deserve a place in this world.

Do you think Charlie Kirk deserved a place in this world?

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 11/09/2025 20:52

anonymouselephantx · 11/09/2025 11:38

Mumsnet has been deleting any comment at all that criticises Charlie Kirk... just because he has died does not mean he is infallible. He is still an evil person who did and said evil things, contributed to so much suffering of families at the hands of ICE etc., mocked the Palestinians undergoing a genocide? Mumsnet, disturbing much? I had to get MN by email to delete a thread of mine as I was getting bullied and people were making personal attacks against me (the talk guidelines say personal attacks will be deleted, yet I had to BEG for this), but they are censoring anything anyone says about Charlie Kirk? Why are we not allowed to have freedom of speech and freedom to debate, especially when it is someone who did and said SO MUCH EVIL!

I can understand why you hated Charlie Kirk, it’s probably not for the reasons you state though.

Maybe calling someone who largely just had different views from you evil is probably all we need to know.

MorningLarkEchoes · 11/09/2025 21:16

SunnySideDeepDown · 11/09/2025 20:41

I think loads of things I wouldn’t say to someone’s face though. Literally everyone does, including you.

Arent you glad Hitler died? I also wish every paedophile and child abuser dropped dead and I’d be very happy to facilitate it.

Bad, immoral and dangerous people don’t deserve a place in this world.

Comparing CK to Hitler is moronic. He was nothing even remotely like Hitler. You, on the other hand, sound like another one on the far-left, who is rejoicing at the murder of an innocent man.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/09/2025 21:18

MorningLarkEchoes · 11/09/2025 21:16

Comparing CK to Hitler is moronic. He was nothing even remotely like Hitler. You, on the other hand, sound like another one on the far-left, who is rejoicing at the murder of an innocent man.

Do you think anyone who has an viewpoint that doesn't match yours is far-left?

SunnySideDeepDown · 11/09/2025 21:26

MorningLarkEchoes · 11/09/2025 21:16

Comparing CK to Hitler is moronic. He was nothing even remotely like Hitler. You, on the other hand, sound like another one on the far-left, who is rejoicing at the murder of an innocent man.

I wasn’t comparing them, I was providing examples of people who would commonly be seen as deserving of death. It’s fairly moronic if you to not acknowledge that.

What makes him innocent? He wasn’t guilty of a crime but he was inciting hate.

As I said, from the little I know about him, I’m not surprised some people want him dead. He seemed like a dangerous person. Anyway, irrelevant now as its happened.

SunnySideDeepDown · 11/09/2025 21:31

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UsernameMcUsername · 11/09/2025 21:45

Justagirl95 · 11/09/2025 20:09

Hitler was an incredibly charismatic man who enjoyed a "debate" too.

Tbf, judging by the responses from this thread I'm sure there would be a lot of "ordinary Germans" who were "just following orders"

Enjoy your night 😘❤️

This is silly, even by the standards of Hitler comparisons. I'm pretty well read on 20th century history. Hitler had absolutely no interest in any kind of back and forth conversation. Even in private with friends he was notorious for absolutely interminable monologues. Whereas Kirk was genuinely prepared to have a back and forth discussion in environments where he would be challenged (fatally as it turned out)

Eskarina1 · 11/09/2025 21:48

Gloriia · 11/09/2025 13:01

The op has called him evil. That is not commenting on his beliefs, it is attacking someone who has been murdered.

It isn't rocket science to see it is crass and revolting to attack someone who has just been murdered surely?

He showed understanding to others just disagreed with some people but he was always happy to debate issues and did so politely. Unlike many.

He did not show understanding to others. He literally said empathy was problematic.

Vivi0 · 11/09/2025 21:51

Eskarina1 · 11/09/2025 21:48

He did not show understanding to others. He literally said empathy was problematic.

He literally said empathy was problematic.

Lol.

1457bloom · 11/09/2025 21:56

Mumsnet has always had censorship,

Vivi0 · 11/09/2025 21:59

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Well, that’s…something.

I can’t say I’ve really given much thought to deciding who gets to live, and who doesn’t.

I guess I’m not without sin myself, so who I am to judge?

It must be great to be a perfect human being though, so well done you!

NebulousWhistler · 11/09/2025 22:01

anonymouselephantx · 11/09/2025 12:41

And people like you are the reason why my British passport husband has to spend hours in queues at European airports while I get to waltz right in with my Irish passport! Enjoy reform! I hope you get me deported back to Ireland.

I have a European passport and I bring my UK passport holding family though the European gates every time. No one bats an eyelid.

<misses point of thread>

Cheekychopsheis · 11/09/2025 22:36

Vivi0 · 11/09/2025 21:59

Well, that’s…something.

I can’t say I’ve really given much thought to deciding who gets to live, and who doesn’t.

I guess I’m not without sin myself, so who I am to judge?

It must be great to be a perfect human being though, so well done you!

Agree @Vivi0
what a terrible thing to say @SunnySideDeepDown wishing someone dead is just disgusting no matter who they are. What a horrible human being you are. Reported.

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