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The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 01:19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

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mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 07:56

Lioncub2020 · 22/06/2025 07:54

It can be rationalised all you like. It doesn't change the fact that only one country has ever pressed the button on a nuclear weapon.

Another nonsensical post.

No country has ever "pressed a nuclear button".

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:56

mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 07:51

As far as I know Afghanistan and Iraq are still there and haven't been razed to the ground.

By all accounts it’s pretty wild to be denying the US destroyed both Iraq and Afghanistan with its invasions.

PandoraSocks · 22/06/2025 07:56

We're going to need more kitten pictures @MistressoftheDarkSide

9448djdi · 22/06/2025 07:56

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:49

You're getting tiresome now. You're just derailing the thread for your own agenda banging on about Gaza and Palestine. The thread is specifically about the US strikes on Iran. Just that. Not Gaza. Not Palestine.

If you don’t think it’s all related you are the one being tiresome and more than a little naive. I’m sure the rest of the middle east who aren’t exactly happy with the atrocities in Gaza aren’t going to be calmly going about their business. Then you get the way Isreal clicks its fingers and Trump jumps even though they are committing atrocities the rest of the world is shouting against…..

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:56

rainingsnoring · 22/06/2025 07:53

Of course what the other poster says it entirely relevant. Do you not understand what has been going on over the past couple of years?

Yes I do. I also understand what the thread title says.

bigboykitty · 22/06/2025 07:57

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:21

We are talking about Iran. Not other countries. Let's keep on topic. Iran have sworn an oath to destroy other countries. US and Israel have not sworn an oath to destroy Iran. They just removed their nuclear capability.

We're talking about the countries people choose to talk about. You don't get to censor other posters.

Rosscameasdoody · 22/06/2025 07:58

Lioncub2020 · 22/06/2025 07:54

It can be rationalised all you like. It doesn't change the fact that only one country has ever pressed the button on a nuclear weapon.

I agree. But if you’re going to make that statement, then rationalising it is important for context. The USA didn’t just drop two nuclear bombs for shits and giggles. It was in defence of the many more lives which would have been lost had Japan not been stopped.

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:59

9448djdi · 22/06/2025 07:56

If you don’t think it’s all related you are the one being tiresome and more than a little naive. I’m sure the rest of the middle east who aren’t exactly happy with the atrocities in Gaza aren’t going to be calmly going about their business. Then you get the way Isreal clicks its fingers and Trump jumps even though they are committing atrocities the rest of the world is shouting against…..

On the contrary, I just understand what the thread title says. Seems other people don't. There's plenty of threads in the middle east section for wider debates.

rainingsnoring · 22/06/2025 07:59

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:56

Yes I do. I also understand what the thread title says.

Well hopefully you understand that what pps said is absolutely relevant as it was the prelude to the US attack.

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:59

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:49

You're getting tiresome now. You're just derailing the thread for your own agenda banging on about Gaza and Palestine. The thread is specifically about the US strikes on Iran. Just that. Not Gaza. Not Palestine.

You’re getting tiresome. Can you even read? My posts don’t mention Gaza.

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 08:00

bigboykitty · 22/06/2025 07:57

We're talking about the countries people choose to talk about. You don't get to censor other posters.

Were actually talking about a specific country on this thread. The clue is in the title. You don't get to censor other posters either.

9448djdi · 22/06/2025 08:00

rainingsnoring · 22/06/2025 07:55

Who told you that? The Daily Mail? I
ran does not have nuclear weapons but Israel does. Israel has been saying that Iran is just about to have nuclear weapons for the last 30 years.

This! One wonders what country is next on the Isreal master plan( propped up by the US led by the oh so sane Trump). The fact Trump only listens to Putin and Netanyahu and ignores war crimes is terrifying.

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 08:01

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:59

You’re getting tiresome. Can you even read? My posts don’t mention Gaza.

Yes, about three pages ago. Short memory?

Rosscameasdoody · 22/06/2025 08:01

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:56

Yes I do. I also understand what the thread title says.

And if you look at virtually any thread on MN you’ll see digression and expansion of the discussion. It’s all part of the debate. If you don’t understand and accept that then maybe MN isn’t the place for you. You don’t get to censor other people’s opinions.

Lincslady53 · 22/06/2025 08:01

KenAdams · 22/06/2025 01:25

There goes Trumps Nobel Prize that he so desperately wants. Being at war with Iran is not a sensible move for Mr America First.

Henry Kissinger got one after bombing Cambodia.

mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 08:02

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:56

By all accounts it’s pretty wild to be denying the US destroyed both Iraq and Afghanistan with its invasions.

Why?

In Afghanistan the Taliban came back to power in 2021 and continued their Human rights abuses.

Iraq is now a Parliamentary Republic and a Federal Democracy instead of a dictatorship.

Roseshavethorns · 22/06/2025 08:02

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This sums up how I feel completely (but says it much better than I ever could)

9448djdi · 22/06/2025 08:02

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 08:00

Were actually talking about a specific country on this thread. The clue is in the title. You don't get to censor other posters either.

So complain away, the rest of us will post whatever we like and whatever we think is relevant.

ToutesetBonne · 22/06/2025 08:02

And it's the same old, same old.......

This debate is pointless, sadly, as all we are seeing, both globally and here on MN, is human nature at its very worst. Look at you all arguing - look at the rudeness; the insults.

Peace begins at home. Until all of the aggressive posters on this thread, and similar ordinary people around the world, begin to practice that, there is no hope.

bigboykitty · 22/06/2025 08:02

mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 07:28

Gaza isn't a country.

What other examples do you have?

Just casually dismissing a genocide.

LakieLady · 22/06/2025 08:04

You cant just go into a country because they have nuclear weapons. We have them, would it be ok for another country to do that to us, or the USA, or France, Pakistan, India, North Korea etc? No, and it would not be tolerated either

I was listening to the radio very early this morning and some "expert" said that this was a war crime, and that the US couldn't claim it was a defensive act because there was no action against the US by Iran. I didn't hear the rest of the discussion, because the thunderstorm stopped and I went back to sleep.

The ICC issuing a warrant for a serving US president would be a first though.

mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 08:04

bigboykitty · 22/06/2025 08:02

Just casually dismissing a genocide.

I'm not dismissing anything.

I'm just making the point that Gaza isn't a country. It's actually a strip of land controlled by terrorists bankrolled by Iran.

HellsBalls · 22/06/2025 08:04

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:49

You're getting tiresome now. You're just derailing the thread for your own agenda banging on about Gaza and Palestine. The thread is specifically about the US strikes on Iran. Just that. Not Gaza. Not Palestine.

Palestine and genocide will be getting shoehorned into this thread, whether it’s relevant or not.

SunnySideDeepDown · 22/06/2025 08:04

Cattenberg · 22/06/2025 02:32

How many separate bombing campaigns has the US carried out on other countries since WWII? 37? 40? Either way, it's a lot, but none of them has resulted in WWIII yet, so I'm not panicking.

Same. I’m really not worried about WW3. World wars tend to be about acquiring land - which is why I am more worried about Russia. Iran will not trigger a WW - although terror attacks in the West may increase.