To think sportswomen shouldn’t have to forfeit competitions because male fckers are stealing their places?

[BronteH]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/darts/article-13387345/Im-not-playing-man-womens-event-Female-darts-star-FORFEITS-tournament-refuses-face-transgender-player-calls-ban-won-two-womens-titles.html

What a strong woman.

Why is it ok for men to ‘appropriate’ being women? Why is this not ‘sex appropriation’? Any other other form of ‘appropriation’ is unacceptable, it seems. Why are women supposed to accept this. Slight detour but applicable.

YANBU - Males should not be in female sports

YABU - Live and let live, males in female sport are just trying their best and mean no harm.

I honestly don’t understand how anyone can think this is ok.

There should be two categories for all sports; open and women’s.

Open is for e v e r y o n e
Womens is for those born a female, who choose to remain a female and is there’s any question, also have a testosterone range of a biological female.

I can't see how being a male can give you a competitive edge in darts against a woman but regardless of that, blokes should not be competing in female events.

It's about men elbowing women out of the way. Surely you must have noticed male privilege

This is the very reason I support Hedman.
She's objecting on grounds that a biological man should not be able to play in a Woman's match and not hiding behind the fact she could lose due to differing strengths.

I agree with the pp who says the two categories should be “female only” and “open”. Then there’s no question about it.

Good for her. More women need to call this out. It's not acceptable or fair.

She is outstanding - a hero

I think there should be three categories: Men, Women, Open. In practical terms that would mean that trans people would all compete in the Open category.

Notable exceptions would be sports which are already mixed, such as equestrianism.

Predictably no coverage on BBC Sport website. They never seem to cover the gender critical aspects of these stories.

There's a thread on this already in relation to pool.

It's not about physical strength it's about access to the sport for women across the board, sponsorship at the higher levels, men's and women's bodies are different in terms of muscle twitch, hand eye co-ordination.

Show me a female darts player who hasn't been hassled down the pub because the men want to play or hasn't been able to put in the same practice hours because of childcare or not feeling able to go into male dominated spaces and take up space in them in the same way men do. Etc etc etc

And maybe women just want to play other women. Maybe it's as simple as that.

Should not be allowable for any sports where physique and strength etc give advantages

Yup. Only certain news outlets cover these stories. Usually traditionally ‘right wing’ ones. Eg. The Mail , telegraph, times.

Traditionally ‘left wing’ ones, have no interest, because they are usually themselves ‘captured’ by incoherent ‘trans ideology’. Eg. BBC, Guardian etc

Of course with this subject ‘the left’ are behaving very much like intolerant right wing loons. News black outs, etc.

Exactly.

Did they not try this for swimming and noone entered the open category. They don't want to have their own category they want to compete against women

https://www.sportresolutions.com/news/view/swimming-world-cup-open-category-scrapped-after-it-receives-no-entries

There’s been no interest in having a 3rd category. That’s why others have suggested Female and Open.

For example - Not one person signed up for the ‘open’ category at the Swimming World Cup. https://swimswam.com/world-aquatics-confirms-no-entries-for-new-open-category-at-berlin-world-cup/

Thank. You.
Why is this so hard?
Do they want to destroy women's sport forever?

There are physiological differences that mean men have an advantage over women at darts - greater arm length and power in the throw are at least two of them.

This, 💯

I agree completely for any physical sport where strength or speed is a factor, but do we really need seperate men's and women's darts?

Men pretending to be women are better women than women , Haven’t you heard?

In your experience are men bigger than women? Stronger? Longer arms? 🙄

Men have a physical advantage over women in darts, but that’s not the only relevant factor.

Some competitive activities have separate classes (such as sex classes) to encourage participation by underrepresented groups (and make more money with more competitions no doubt).

If someone from a larger group self-identifies into a smaller one, they can improve their ranking irrespective of relative performance.

For example, there are about fifty times as many male chess grandmasters as female. So a man in the top 250 could place himself in the top five in his class just by declaring himself a woman.