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To be absolutely disgusted by this?

309 replies

sugarrosepetal · 12/06/2023 17:51

I'm so angry. I get that people want to have equal rights but this is not equality. It is the eradication of the rights of "women" in order to appease the minority.

To be absolutely disgusted by this?
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Menomidge · 12/06/2023 19:00

Christ what's next ... Red capes or green dresses?

YinYogi · 12/06/2023 19:00

Chilling.

I hope the #bekind brigade are watching.

MmaRra · 12/06/2023 19:01

I wonder how many (genuine) lesbians feel comfortable about being labelled non-men and their wives and partners being labelled as non-men?

Tessisme · 12/06/2023 19:01

*It’s there in the image

The definition of lesbian has been updated to include those who are non binary

Not that the definition of a woman has been updated

Christ on a bike*

Are you serious @artichikeheart? You don't think that referring to women as non men in this, or any other context, is problematic? No change for men, but women are non men? Never mind Christ on a bike. Christ on a non binary rainbow unicorn. I reckon you're on the wind up. Nobody's that hard of thinking.

AndDoTheTangoInTheNightTAAAAAANGOOO · 12/06/2023 19:02

What does a non-binary man or woman who is gay refer to themselves as? You can't be gay because you'd have to identify as a man or woman to be gay so is non-binary a sexuality too but then it doesn't actually say whether someone is straight or gay. (I'm asking the question as I actually don't know the answer, rather than making a joke out of it).

wingingit1987 · 12/06/2023 19:04

This is absolutely ludicrous. How can anyone say this isn’t an attack on women? Men get to stay men but we get to be non-men.

Thisistheendof · 12/06/2023 19:05

artichikeheart · 12/06/2023 18:30

It’s there in the image

The definition of lesbian has been updated to include those who are non binary

Not that the definition of a woman has been updated

Christ on a bike

Then non binary people can choose their own word to describe who they are and not appropriate the word lesbian to suit their own needs and not the needs of lesbians who are, BY THEIR OWN DEFINITION, WOMEN!

mightymam · 12/06/2023 19:05

Bastards.

RudsyFarmer · 12/06/2023 19:05

At some point these people will shake themselves out of their trance and wonder what the fuck has happened. At some point there will be a peaking point even for some of the staunchest allies.

FrostyFifi · 12/06/2023 19:05

*It’s there in the image

The definition of lesbian has been updated to include those who are non binary

Not that the definition of a woman has been updated*

So in the passage below, why aren't men refered to as "non-women" then? You truly don't see the issue with that?

CasperGutman · 12/06/2023 19:07

Why can't they just say that a lesbian is a person who considers themselves a woman and who is attracted to people they consider to be women? That seems more inclusive to me, and doesn't place the term "man" above the term "woman" in the way their current nonsense does. It almost certainly has its own issues, though....

SunnyEgg · 12/06/2023 19:09

Wtf

Why aren’t men non women instead?

LadyVictoriaSponge · 12/06/2023 19:10

CasperGutman · 12/06/2023 19:07

Why can't they just say that a lesbian is a person who considers themselves a woman and who is attracted to people they consider to be women? That seems more inclusive to me, and doesn't place the term "man" above the term "woman" in the way their current nonsense does. It almost certainly has its own issues, though....

No, no and no.

Thisistheendof · 12/06/2023 19:10

CasperGutman · 12/06/2023 19:07

Why can't they just say that a lesbian is a person who considers themselves a woman and who is attracted to people they consider to be women? That seems more inclusive to me, and doesn't place the term "man" above the term "woman" in the way their current nonsense does. It almost certainly has its own issues, though....

Because lesbians aren't interested in anyone with a penis. It sort of comes with the territory.

pellegrina · 12/06/2023 19:10

Lacucuracha · 12/06/2023 18:01

Why isn’t a gay man a non-woman?

This? Or an adult a non-child? Or a dog a non-cat? Or a carrot a non- fucking potato ?

bringincrazyback · 12/06/2023 19:12

Fucking hell. This is like something out of a Margaret Atwood novel.

YinYogi · 12/06/2023 19:12

Can we do anything about this?! Who do we write to? This is fucking ridiculous.

3peassuit · 12/06/2023 19:12

Fucking hell. Since when did woman become a dirty word?

YinYogi · 12/06/2023 19:13

CasperGutman · 12/06/2023 19:07

Why can't they just say that a lesbian is a person who considers themselves a woman and who is attracted to people they consider to be women? That seems more inclusive to me, and doesn't place the term "man" above the term "woman" in the way their current nonsense does. It almost certainly has its own issues, though....

Why can’t we just say lesbians are women who are attracted to other women? You know, the actual truth? Fuck sake.

ShiteRider · 12/06/2023 19:13

If you read the whole thing, they do refer to women lower down the list - although I still don’t understand why this weird way of describing women isn’t used for men too.

itsmylife7 · 12/06/2023 19:15

See we've still got the 'be kind ' justifying this erosion of Women.

Well I say #fuckbeingkind

DrySherry · 12/06/2023 19:17

This must be a windup, surely?

C1N1C · 12/06/2023 19:20

I think it's disgusting that women are (now) defined by comparing them to men.

I wonder if I (as a man) should start calling my wife and colleagues 'non-men' from now on...

"So today is a good day to die!"

Saschka · 12/06/2023 19:21

Thisistheendof · 12/06/2023 19:05

Then non binary people can choose their own word to describe who they are and not appropriate the word lesbian to suit their own needs and not the needs of lesbians who are, BY THEIR OWN DEFINITION, WOMEN!

I don’t think two non-binary male-bodied people would ever describe themselves as a lesbian couple. I could be wrong, obviously, but I know a fair few non-binary people, and none of them do.

ecdysiast2 · 12/06/2023 19:21

The world is going fucking backwards Sad Angry