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To be absolutely disgusted by this?

309 replies

sugarrosepetal · 12/06/2023 17:51

I'm so angry. I get that people want to have equal rights but this is not equality. It is the eradication of the rights of "women" in order to appease the minority.

To be absolutely disgusted by this?
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TheHandbag · 12/06/2023 19:57

RocketPanda · 12/06/2023 19:55

This was always the end goal. The erasure of women.

Until they want to rent a wombto have babies like Tom Daley did and then prance around knitting booties hectoring us all to #bekind

SomersetDreams · 12/06/2023 19:58

If you haven't seen this yet .... "What is a Woman Film?" by Matt Walsh.

It starts in a humourous way and then the dark reality of what is really happening to children is shed light on. Shocking but people needs to see what is happening.( There are 7 parts fo you will have to go through them on the channel)

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WHAT IS A WOMAN - REACTION - PART I

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=366s&v=N9Y7falGsHw

Thisistheendof · 12/06/2023 20:02

Saschka · 12/06/2023 19:21

I don’t think two non-binary male-bodied people would ever describe themselves as a lesbian couple. I could be wrong, obviously, but I know a fair few non-binary people, and none of them do.

Then why change the definition? It clearly says non binary people who identify as lesbian which, hypothetically at least, includes people with a penis. This is why all of this shit is just reductive nonsense.

Bubbylana · 12/06/2023 20:03

There is something every day now. A trans Angler "with hands like shovels" accepted into the British Womens Angling Team. Women are non - men!! what the fuck is going on.
Just going to be a love and stick the kettle on.

planthelpadvice · 12/06/2023 20:04

Sxp · 12/06/2023 19:56

I can’t seem to find this on their website. All diversity and inclusion pages refer to female and women 🤷‍♀️

I doubled checked because I also wondered if it was faked, but it's there on the link provided by @mybestchildismycat above.

NutellaEllaElla · 12/06/2023 20:05

Just fuck this shit

tiredmama23 · 12/06/2023 20:09

Oh fuck that shit. I'm a fucking WOMAN and hell will freeze over the day I refer to myself as a fucking non-man.

Fuck off.

Saschka · 12/06/2023 20:10

Thisistheendof · 12/06/2023 20:02

Then why change the definition? It clearly says non binary people who identify as lesbian which, hypothetically at least, includes people with a penis. This is why all of this shit is just reductive nonsense.

I agree with you…

Sxp · 12/06/2023 20:10

planthelpadvice · 12/06/2023 20:04

I doubled checked because I also wondered if it was faked, but it's there on the link provided by @mybestchildismycat above.

OMG you’re absolutely correct. WTAF! A lesbian will always be female attracted to female. What are they teaching students these days 😡

TheFreaksShallInheritTheEarth · 12/06/2023 20:15

I swore a lot when I read about this.

RocketPanda · 12/06/2023 20:15

@TheHandbag perhaps they will have a non man farm, like dairy farms.
Oh wait that's already happening in countries where surrogacy is big money.

When women are reduced into non men, menstruators, bleeders, breeders, Karen's and TERFS and it's just accepted and celebrated, as a human race we are in very dangerous times for women and girls. For the first time in history a sizable percentage of the world's population of women had voting rights, reproductive control, financial control and a right to own property. Women were in politics and boardrooms. Albeit in small numbers but they were there. No longer support humans tied to either her father,husband or brother.

continentallentil · 12/06/2023 20:23

Fuck me

madmumofteens · 12/06/2023 20:28

Omg wtf the world has gone mad god help us all 🥺

EdithStourton · 12/06/2023 20:29

At least the idiots who were telling us that we were being sillies have fucked off.

I'm still seething.

SunnyEgg · 12/06/2023 20:30

EdithStourton · 12/06/2023 20:29

At least the idiots who were telling us that we were being sillies have fucked off.

I'm still seething.

What did they think would happen

It’s bloody obvious. Erasure

Fuck that

TheShellBeach · 12/06/2023 20:30

artichikeheart · 12/06/2023 18:18

Yabu as you clearly haven’t read it properly or are purposely misrepresenting the context

This is Mn so money is on the latter

Don't be ridiculous.
Women shouldn't have to reclaim the word which describes them FFS.

Carryonkeepinggoing · 12/06/2023 20:30

Stickmansmum · 12/06/2023 18:49

That’s how I took it. And also that by saying non man, they were actually acknowledging all the modern interpretation of women as separate to biologically born women (something that you very same people are so desperate to do) so ironically it actually works better for distinguishing woman from trans woman and non binary women etc. You have to laugh no? 😂

My cat is a non-man. My lawnmower and my dishwasher and my car are also non-men.

Isitreallythough · 12/06/2023 20:30

I think the writers are probably just trying to explain how the language is used.

They’re not denying the existence of women. They’re saying some non-binary people also feel that ‘lesbian’ describes their sexuality (I imagine generally people who biologically would appear female).

I think there isn’t actually the same reason to use ‘non-women’ in explaining ‘gay’ as there is to use ‘non-men’ in explaining ‘lesbian’. As the entry says, ‘gay’ is sometimes used by people regardless of gender. So you don’t have to expand ‘gay’ beyond ‘men’ to be inclusive to non-binary people - it’s been used for ages in a broad enough way that they are covered.

I don’t think the passage shared shows that the glossary is fuelled by misogyny, which a lot of posters seem to feel.

Backstreets · 12/06/2023 20:33

Absolute fn nonsense.
Solidarity with our lesbian sisters.

FictionalCharacter · 12/06/2023 20:35

BorgQueen · 12/06/2023 17:55

For all the gullible idiots saying it’s not a Mens’ rights movement - we told you, you didn’t listen. Now here we are.

Yep. Not even rights really, it's a male supremacy movement.

RoyalGala · 12/06/2023 20:40

I have no words 🤦🏻‍♀️

Rosiesmydog · 12/06/2023 20:44

In the 80s I marched for women’s rights. I’d like to think that the ethos that spurred me on in those days was carried thru to my children’s generation. It’s seems not. The greens (bastards don’t even deserve a capital letter) can get to fuck. I mean, sod environmental issues, let’s arselick the gender woo gang instead. Fuckers

planthelpadvice · 12/06/2023 20:49

Isitreallythough · 12/06/2023 20:30

I think the writers are probably just trying to explain how the language is used.

They’re not denying the existence of women. They’re saying some non-binary people also feel that ‘lesbian’ describes their sexuality (I imagine generally people who biologically would appear female).

I think there isn’t actually the same reason to use ‘non-women’ in explaining ‘gay’ as there is to use ‘non-men’ in explaining ‘lesbian’. As the entry says, ‘gay’ is sometimes used by people regardless of gender. So you don’t have to expand ‘gay’ beyond ‘men’ to be inclusive to non-binary people - it’s been used for ages in a broad enough way that they are covered.

I don’t think the passage shared shows that the glossary is fuelled by misogyny, which a lot of posters seem to feel.

I kind of get what you are saying, but I still don't understand why they are saying non-men? Women and non-binary works fine (although I do not think all non binary people are lesbians either). I find it very troubling that it implies men are the default and then everyone/everything else is just not a man. It is completely fine to use the word women.

FOJN · 12/06/2023 20:58

Here's someone who thinks we should have parents day because mothers day and father's day are exclusionary.

https://youtube.com/shorts/cZlJI6IuQXc?feature=share

Isitreallythough · 12/06/2023 20:59

Mmm yes, maybe it would have been better to just not try to use a single term to cover women and non binary people. The idea that women are basically not-men is clearly offensive - I just don’t think that was what was intended.

I didn’t mean to imply all non binary people are lesbian.

Thanks for your thoughtful reply