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To have lost all faith in men

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dksjsn · 13/08/2022 00:58

One of the girls I work with recently slept with a man. He was married, on a dating site. She didn't know he was married until they finished and he asked her to keep quiet. He told her he loved his wife but sex with her is boring "same shit different day".... his wife has no idea but he does this a lot.

My colleague is a sweet girl who is single and horrified at the idea this man is married.

AIBU to have lost all faith in men? Is sex really boring after you've been together years?

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SunscreenCentral · 13/08/2022 01:04

Your friend needs to up her game on screening dates.

PeterStoke · 13/08/2022 01:04

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NaughtyDaddyPig · 13/08/2022 01:05

That's not really the point. Wife is probably not interested in cleaning, mental load, kids, him! If sex is shit, he needs to put effort in, into all aspects, but it's not about the 'boring sex', it's about men being so fucking lazy and vile, that they'd rather put effort into finding a novelty, pixie dream girl, that will listen to their horseshit with fresh, unbiased ears, massage their giant ego and potentially indulge their sub standard bedroom skills before moving on to the next target.

Men like this aren't good people. And probably are shit in bed themselves.

I hope the wife is told so she can toss out the garbage man.

NaughtyDaddyPig · 13/08/2022 01:06

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Oh look. Exhibit A. Bitter that women have attributed the Dane shallow standards pit on them to the men on dating sites.
You probably have far less going for you than you imagine.

NaughtyDaddyPig · 13/08/2022 01:07

Argh. Same fml not dame.
Love autocrap

PeterStoke · 13/08/2022 01:08

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NaughtyDaddyPig · 13/08/2022 01:12

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🤣🤣🤣

wellhelloitsme · 13/08/2022 01:20

Women only match/swipe with the top 10% of men. And of course those men 'clean up' so to speak.

they all just wanna get on these dating apps, and get pumped and dumped by the top 10% blokes.

He's just a good looking guy pumping and dumping on dating apps because it's soo soo easy.

Yes women famously all have great experiences on dating apps 🙄

Tell me you're an incel without telling me you're an incel.

Oh and FYI you'd probably be more of a prospect for nice women if you weren't the kind of man who uses phrases like 'pumped and dumped' which makes you sound like a raving misogynist.

We aren't just turned off by men who view women this way btw. Some women are scared of you. Scared of the anger and bitterness you hold when a woman doesn't want to have sex with you. Newsflash - we're allowed to have sex with people we want to and not have sex with people we don't want to. Just like men are. Shocking, isn't it? Equality.

I imagine you use phrases like alpha and beta males. Listen to women instead of MRAs / incels. It'll up your chances of not coming across as a man who is angry with women not being woman-ing right in his view.

HTH.

MessyBunPersonified · 13/08/2022 01:26

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I really don't think its your looks that are off-putting for women.

Op has lost faith in men because of the cheating bastards lying on dating apps.

You've lost faith in women because you feel entitled to those you feel match your perceived attractiveness. You're not entitled to a shag, or a relationship with anyone.

AlmostAJillSandwich · 13/08/2022 02:08

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Hold on to your knickers ladies, the proverbial self proclaimed "nice guy" has arrived!

vodkaredbullgirl · 13/08/2022 02:13

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🙄

SheeplessAndCounting · 13/08/2022 02:22

NaughtyDaddyPig · 13/08/2022 01:05

That's not really the point. Wife is probably not interested in cleaning, mental load, kids, him! If sex is shit, he needs to put effort in, into all aspects, but it's not about the 'boring sex', it's about men being so fucking lazy and vile, that they'd rather put effort into finding a novelty, pixie dream girl, that will listen to their horseshit with fresh, unbiased ears, massage their giant ego and potentially indulge their sub standard bedroom skills before moving on to the next target.

Men like this aren't good people. And probably are shit in bed themselves.

I hope the wife is told so she can toss out the garbage man.

👏👏👏

audeloquipalam · 13/08/2022 02:24

NaughtyDaddyPig · 13/08/2022 01:05

That's not really the point. Wife is probably not interested in cleaning, mental load, kids, him! If sex is shit, he needs to put effort in, into all aspects, but it's not about the 'boring sex', it's about men being so fucking lazy and vile, that they'd rather put effort into finding a novelty, pixie dream girl, that will listen to their horseshit with fresh, unbiased ears, massage their giant ego and potentially indulge their sub standard bedroom skills before moving on to the next target.

Men like this aren't good people. And probably are shit in bed themselves.

I hope the wife is told so she can toss out the garbage man.

What’s your therapists view?

SheeplessAndCounting · 13/08/2022 02:24

Everything @wellhelloitsme said.

Twawmyarse · 13/08/2022 02:30

NaughtyDaddyPig · 13/08/2022 01:05

That's not really the point. Wife is probably not interested in cleaning, mental load, kids, him! If sex is shit, he needs to put effort in, into all aspects, but it's not about the 'boring sex', it's about men being so fucking lazy and vile, that they'd rather put effort into finding a novelty, pixie dream girl, that will listen to their horseshit with fresh, unbiased ears, massage their giant ego and potentially indulge their sub standard bedroom skills before moving on to the next target.

Men like this aren't good people. And probably are shit in bed themselves.

I hope the wife is told so she can toss out the garbage man.

Just what I came on to say 👏

Twawmyarse · 13/08/2022 02:31

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And you can get in the bin with your horrible misogynistic crap - "pump and dump"? 🤢

strivingtosucceed · 13/08/2022 02:42

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☠️☠️☠️ you sound like an incel, and no, most women aren't looking for the top 10% of guys to be pumped and dumped.

badbaduncle · 13/08/2022 02:58

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"pumped and dumped"
Errrrrr your misogyny is the reason no woman wants you, you stupid cunt😂

RenegadeMatron · 13/08/2022 03:15

dksjsn · 13/08/2022 00:58

One of the girls I work with recently slept with a man. He was married, on a dating site. She didn't know he was married until they finished and he asked her to keep quiet. He told her he loved his wife but sex with her is boring "same shit different day".... his wife has no idea but he does this a lot.

My colleague is a sweet girl who is single and horrified at the idea this man is married.

AIBU to have lost all faith in men? Is sex really boring after you've been together years?

I can cast iron guarantee that if ^he’s finding the sex boring, she’s finding 10 x more boring.

As the esteemed incel gentleman Peter, on this thread, has kindly confirmed for us - men ‘pump’ (and dump). They at least get something out of it - an orgasm. Women don’t get anything out of shit sex - and most men, who these days have been raised on a diet of porn, only put on shit sex.

Snoozysnoozy · 13/08/2022 07:17

I hate to say it but...

Peter is right, or partly right at least. There is a "top xx%" of men cleaning up. Height alone can be a major disadvantage. Men under 6 foot tall are generally unlikely to be chosen. That's before all of the other blurb. Now of course not the women of Mumsnet who would never do such a thing as discriminate based on height, and there's definitely not threads like 'AIBU in refusing to date short men'. A couple of recent podcasts from Triggernometry had experts on discussing dating apps, sex culture and incels. The data from studies was discussed at length.

So maybe if his post was less misogynistic it would have made his point a little better. But fuck it, what do I know? Just call him an incel cunt and ignore him 🤷

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:24

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I think you got lost on the way to the mens rights sub on Reddit

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:25

YABU

For using this one example of something that didn't even happen to you to be so dramatic over.

Losing faith in half the population over a man who slept with someone you know

Wilkolampshade · 13/08/2022 07:35

Won't somebody think of the Menz?!?!?

To have lost all faith in men
Nogaxeh · 13/08/2022 07:50

This is an observation bias sort of issue. I hope. Obviously all the decent men who are doing their share of the dishes, and learning more about their wife so that sex continues to improve, are not signing up to dating sites to cheat on their wife. Where would they find the time?!?

Also all the decent single men on dating sites will, at some point, become decent coupled men, or give up, so won't be on dating sites indefinitely. Whereas, your cheating scumbag man will be on dating sites continually, being a scumbag over and over again.

It's like, everyone in the neighborhood has to walk past the dogshit left by the one dog walker who couldn't be arsed to clean up after their dog, but you don't see the dozens of dog walkers who did clean up after their dogs. So you're left fuming, "why don't dog walkers clean up their shit!?!" The scumbags on dating sites are that abandoned turd, and you just don't notice the decent men.

That, at least, is my hope. Or else all men really are bastards. Sorry.

Whitehorsegirl · 13/08/2022 08:35

''@SunscreenCentral Your friend needs to up her game on screening dates.''

Nice bit of victim blaming. It is not her fault that a man decided to cheat on his wife, lied on his dating profile and carried on lying.

Men like this need to up their game and stop using other people.

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