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AIBU?

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To have lost all faith in men

53 replies

dksjsn · 13/08/2022 00:58

One of the girls I work with recently slept with a man. He was married, on a dating site. She didn't know he was married until they finished and he asked her to keep quiet. He told her he loved his wife but sex with her is boring "same shit different day".... his wife has no idea but he does this a lot.

My colleague is a sweet girl who is single and horrified at the idea this man is married.

AIBU to have lost all faith in men? Is sex really boring after you've been together years?

OP posts:
User135644 · 13/08/2022 08:38

dksjsn · 13/08/2022 00:58

One of the girls I work with recently slept with a man. He was married, on a dating site. She didn't know he was married until they finished and he asked her to keep quiet. He told her he loved his wife but sex with her is boring "same shit different day".... his wife has no idea but he does this a lot.

My colleague is a sweet girl who is single and horrified at the idea this man is married.

AIBU to have lost all faith in men? Is sex really boring after you've been together years?

Don't sleep with losers. She should pick better, or her attractions are flawed.

User135644 · 13/08/2022 08:40

A lot of married women are out there having affairs as well behind their husband's back. Many of them posting about them on here.

x2boys · 13/08/2022 08:40

dksjsn · 13/08/2022 00:58

One of the girls I work with recently slept with a man. He was married, on a dating site. She didn't know he was married until they finished and he asked her to keep quiet. He told her he loved his wife but sex with her is boring "same shit different day".... his wife has no idea but he does this a lot.

My colleague is a sweet girl who is single and horrified at the idea this man is married.

AIBU to have lost all faith in men? Is sex really boring after you've been together years?

So because your colleague slept with a man she didn't know was married
That means all married men are having affairs?

SheeplessAndCounting · 13/08/2022 10:55

@Wilkolampshade that article is hilarious. All these mean, selfish women refusing to date men who treat them like shit. SO UNFAIR. 😭🎻😆

wellhelloitsme · 13/08/2022 10:56

Snoozysnoozy · 13/08/2022 07:17

I hate to say it but...

Peter is right, or partly right at least. There is a "top xx%" of men cleaning up. Height alone can be a major disadvantage. Men under 6 foot tall are generally unlikely to be chosen. That's before all of the other blurb. Now of course not the women of Mumsnet who would never do such a thing as discriminate based on height, and there's definitely not threads like 'AIBU in refusing to date short men'. A couple of recent podcasts from Triggernometry had experts on discussing dating apps, sex culture and incels. The data from studies was discussed at length.

So maybe if his post was less misogynistic it would have made his point a little better. But fuck it, what do I know? Just call him an incel cunt and ignore him 🤷

Men who describe women as getting 'pumped and dumped' are incel, misogynistic cunts.

HYH.

wellhelloitsme · 13/08/2022 10:57

HTH not HYH obviously!

Wilkolampshade · 13/08/2022 11:11

@SheeplessAndCounting Ikr, pass me my tiny violin.... 😂

WalkingOnTheCracks · 13/08/2022 13:07

A friend of mine was recently ill-treated by a tall person.

AIBU to have lost faith in tall people?

butterflied · 13/08/2022 13:18

User135644 · 13/08/2022 08:40

A lot of married women are out there having affairs as well behind their husband's back. Many of them posting about them on here.

Ah, but that's OK, dontcha know. Their husbands are all awful and these women just want to be happy. It's fine.

dksjsn · 13/08/2022 13:20

What's an incel?

OP posts:
Nogaxeh · 13/08/2022 13:46

dksjsn · 13/08/2022 13:20

What's an incel?

Incel = involuntary celibate

Some men have used this as a description for the situation where they're unable to find a girlfriend, and they are blaming feminism/women for this failure, because they're entitled pricks.

wellhelloitsme · 13/08/2022 15:09

dksjsn · 13/08/2022 13:20

What's an incel?

metro.co.uk/2022/04/25/incels-arent-to-be-laughed-at-theyre-only-going-to-get-more-dangerous-16531003/amp/

It's a genuinely scary movement that is very dangerous for women and girls.

Walkacrossthesand · 14/08/2022 06:30

@Wilkolampshade , that screenshot of 'dating app data' is interesting & directly opposite my observation as a 50+ woman when I dabbled in OLD. On the (paid) app I was on, I sorted by 'last seen' and counted the number of men of my age in my area, who had been active within the last month - to rule our 'dormant profiles' which of course stay there indefinitely even after you've stopped subscribing.

Then I ran a 'dummy search' as a man my age seeking a woman - and found the ratio was 2 women to 1 man, and that was before taking into account the fact that many men my age had their age filter set to rule out anyone older than mid 40s, so I wouldn't have popped up on their search.

That contributed to me deciding to leave OLD behind forever. I haven't been tempted again since....

Leafyhouse · 14/08/2022 06:41

User135644 · 13/08/2022 08:40

A lot of married women are out there having affairs as well behind their husband's back. Many of them posting about them on here.

I agree - maybe we need to de-couple sex and marriage more in this day and age, and stop 'condemning' people. Each to their own, I know a few marriages that would be a lot less stressful for both parties if they just acknowledged different sexual needs.

TomPinch · 14/08/2022 06:57

dksjsn · 13/08/2022 00:58

One of the girls I work with recently slept with a man. He was married, on a dating site. She didn't know he was married until they finished and he asked her to keep quiet. He told her he loved his wife but sex with her is boring "same shit different day".... his wife has no idea but he does this a lot.

My colleague is a sweet girl who is single and horrified at the idea this man is married.

AIBU to have lost all faith in men? Is sex really boring after you've been together years?

Yabu. There are some shits around.

That's really all that needs to be said

TomPinch · 14/08/2022 07:04

Snoozysnoozy · 13/08/2022 07:17

I hate to say it but...

Peter is right, or partly right at least. There is a "top xx%" of men cleaning up. Height alone can be a major disadvantage. Men under 6 foot tall are generally unlikely to be chosen. That's before all of the other blurb. Now of course not the women of Mumsnet who would never do such a thing as discriminate based on height, and there's definitely not threads like 'AIBU in refusing to date short men'. A couple of recent podcasts from Triggernometry had experts on discussing dating apps, sex culture and incels. The data from studies was discussed at length.

So maybe if his post was less misogynistic it would have made his point a little better. But fuck it, what do I know? Just call him an incel cunt and ignore him 🤷

Yep, this.
This is an interesting podcast

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0bwpxjb

It says increased independence for women means they no longer have to settle and women are in general pickier than men.

There is nothing wrong with this.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 14/08/2022 07:18

It happens unfortunately with online dating.

Not all men are arseholes who regularly cheat, she has had some bad luck.

Put it behind her.

EmmaH2022 · 14/08/2022 07:25

Wilkolampshade · 13/08/2022 07:35

Won't somebody think of the Menz?!?!?

Oh. My.GOD.

EmmaH2022 · 14/08/2022 07:26

Sorry that’s meant for the headline!

Penguinsaregreat · 14/08/2022 07:31

I would tell his wife if I got the chance she has every right to know.

Sandinmyknickers · 14/08/2022 08:36

Snoozysnoozy · 13/08/2022 07:17

I hate to say it but...

Peter is right, or partly right at least. There is a "top xx%" of men cleaning up. Height alone can be a major disadvantage. Men under 6 foot tall are generally unlikely to be chosen. That's before all of the other blurb. Now of course not the women of Mumsnet who would never do such a thing as discriminate based on height, and there's definitely not threads like 'AIBU in refusing to date short men'. A couple of recent podcasts from Triggernometry had experts on discussing dating apps, sex culture and incels. The data from studies was discussed at length.

So maybe if his post was less misogynistic it would have made his point a little better. But fuck it, what do I know? Just call him an incel cunt and ignore him 🤷

Are you saying, no man under 6 foot has ever had a successful match on tinder or managed to find love? No man who isn't a 100% conevtionally attractive baywatch-style hunk? Quite a (ridiculous) claim

RealBecca · 14/08/2022 08:43

Ah I see there had been an uncle comment. What hilarious about incels is that they dont seem to realise that ple ty of objectively unbeautiful men have girlfriends and wives and it's because they are nice people. Incels bang on about the "top 10%" of men thinking that if the top 10% didn't exist then women would want to shag them instead...nah mate, still wouldn't touch you. Funny how the rage is directed at women and not the "top 10%" that they know they would piss their pants at if they had to have a go at them instead of women who they perceive as easier target to rage at.

And your friend has just met a wanker.

RealBecca · 14/08/2022 08:46

Incels talk about the top 10% of men and conveniently ignore the fact they they themselves wouldn't shag what they would consider the "bottom 10% of women" choosing to ignore that their attitude puts them in the bottom 1%.
What top 10% wants to shag a 1%? Or even top 99%?

RedLemonade · 14/08/2022 08:52

@badbaduncle Couldn’t have said it more pithily myself😂

UglyNameChange · 14/08/2022 08:58

YANBU

I’m more suprised it took you this long…
I lost my faith in men somewhere in my teenage years.
Good side is that I haven’t been dissapointed by men in years and years!

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