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Aibu to think if the worst happened and your child died in mysterious circumstances you should have a right to know what happened.

1001 replies

Turningpurple · 26/03/2022 19:11

Just as the title says.

Noah Donohoe disappeared coming home from school, his body was found in a storm drain without his clothes.

His mother can not get answers on why the police decided, immediately that there was no four play and us being blocked from seeing 4 files by the police.

She says On the day Noah was found, before Noah was formally identified, the Police did a media release stating that there was ‘No Foul Play’ involved.I ask, if the police are so sure that ‘No Foul Play’ was involved, why are the police now trying to stop me, as Noah’s mummy, getting four files of information on Noah’s investigation?

Surely I am not unreasonable to think this isn't ok and that most of use would want to know what had happened to our child?

This is an overview of what has happened so far.

mobile.twitter.com/MarymoBelfast/status/1370453351616425985?s=20&t=yryUQok3nQ619uJUawvnjg

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Yiayoula · 12/04/2022 13:24

Heaven only knows, Monty27.

Here in the UK, the Daily Mail is notorious for trawling Mumsnet threads for stories

Are you here, Daily Mail ?

EmeraldShamrock1 · 12/04/2022 15:22

@Monty27 I sent an email to 3 Irish newspapers when Fiona was presenting the petition the 25th of February, none had any interest in covering the story.

TheBlackDarner · 12/04/2022 15:35

There's a journalist in Belfast who writes about Noah and isn't afraid to ask questions.
Elly Omondi Odhiambo, is not your " traditional" NI journo however. He's shown that he has the guts to speak up about Noah.
belfastmedia.com/what-are-the-police-hiding-in-the-noah-case

Yiayoula · 12/04/2022 17:30

Thanks very much for linking that article, TheBlackDarner.
What a fantastic journalist that man is !
Scrolling down from that piece was another one of his “How did my baby end up in a storm drain ? “

Very, very powerful writing 💙

TheRealMrsMac · 12/04/2022 18:00

Sincerest thanks to @blackandgreen for letting me use her words from another thread. I wanted to quote this here and on the petition thread, because it is pertinent and gives hope from experience whenever anyone is struggling:

There also came a point TheRealMrsMac when Doreen and Neville Lawrence mostly had all the jigsaw pieces so knew the story, yet still there were corrupt officers in the way of justice.

And how Duwayne, Stephen's friend, was hounded by those corrupt officers.

and

I remember one day back in the early days of the Stephen Lawrence campaign, wondering to myself, if the truth would ever out.

It did. Flowers

💙

Kindy1234 · 12/04/2022 18:47

All I can say is wow.. I never heard of this story before..My heart goes out to his mum, friends and family. If there's no foul play then how come the rest of his clothes are still missing if he took them off by himself. Surely the clothes would have been found scattered about the road somewhere. And why can't mum see any information held about the case if there's s been no foul play. That doesn't add up.

TheRealMrsMac · 12/04/2022 18:59

Thank you for posting pp. You're right, it doesn't add up and there are many other examples, as well as Noah's clothing. Can I invite you, and anyone else, over to this thread too - perhaps you can sign the petition?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

TheRealMrsMac · 12/04/2022 20:56

This is the police's response to a Freedom of Information Act request. Needless to say, it is a blanket refusal to provide any information about the investigation into Noah's death:

www.psni.police.uk/globalassets/advice--information/our-publications/disclosure-logs/2020/operational-policing/01604-noah-donohoe.pdf

TheRealMrsMac · 12/04/2022 21:12

@Yiayoula

Thanks very much for linking that article, TheBlackDarner. What a fantastic journalist that man is ! Scrolling down from that piece was another one of his “How did my baby end up in a storm drain ? “

Very, very powerful writing 💙

These are the links to two other articles he has written about Noah:

belfastmedia.com/fiona-how-did-my-baby-end-up-in-a-storm-drain

belfastmedia.com/waiting-on-one-brave-psni-officer-to-do-right-by-noah

Yiayoula · 12/04/2022 21:18

Investigation ?

According to my Cambridge Dictionary, the definition of “ investigation “ is -

“ The act or process of examining a crime, problem, statement, etc. carefully, especially to discover the truth “

Anyone here think that happened ?

Yiayoula · 12/04/2022 21:19

BUMP 💙

Yiayoula · 12/04/2022 21:21

Not in Active , MNHQ ?
What a surprise …….

TheRealMrsMac · 12/04/2022 21:22

@Yiayoula

Investigation ?

According to my Cambridge Dictionary, the definition of “ investigation “ is -

“ The act or process of examining a crime, problem, statement, etc. carefully, especially to discover the truth “

Anyone here think that happened ?

It's a no from me. 💙
TheRealMrsMac · 12/04/2022 21:23

@Yiayoula

Not in Active , MNHQ ? What a surprise …….
Still not in Active. Let's try again...
Yiayoula · 12/04/2022 22:02

And again ..

HRTQueen · 12/04/2022 23:56

💙 for Noah

Dobbysgotthesocks · 13/04/2022 14:36

Bumping for Noah

TheRealMrsMac · 13/04/2022 15:53

Bumping 💙

TheRealMrsMac · 13/04/2022 16:06

This afternoon, 304,500 people are standing up for Fiona and for Noah. Will you join us?

Please sign the petition, or sign and share far and wide if you can, and don't forget to confirm your signature so that it counts. The Change link can easily be found on this thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

Thank you 💙

Athenajm80 · 13/04/2022 18:02

That FOI reply basically says it would take too long to find the stuff requested. Bullshit. Surely most of it should be in the investigation file/s.

Without wanting to seem ghoulish, where did the information about screams etc come from? Was it just in Fiona's Twitter feed?Niamh and Fiona seem to allude to a lot of information and people and I wondered if any of that had been covered in an article or statement. I understand that they might not want to jeopardize anything by saying the people's names. They're so brave and strong. I'm sure the temptation must be to call these people out so everyone knows their names and that they are involved in something, but I suppose you can't do that.

The strength and integrity they are both showing is in total opposition to that of PSNI. One would hope that sooner or later, if nothing else, a whistle blower from PSNI will step up and admit at least some of what the police are hiding. How can they all live with themselves? I couldn't go home each night and not be tortured that this massive cover up was going on. It's shameful.

TheRealMrsMac · 14/04/2022 00:30

This is the Channel 4 report about Noah:

www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=p1eIy-xS0Eg

TheRealMrsMac · 14/04/2022 00:36

Bumping for Active.

TheRealMrsMac · 14/04/2022 00:37

Bump.

TheRealMrsMac · 14/04/2022 00:38

Another bump for Active.

Yiayoula · 14/04/2022 05:58

Bump.

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