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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think Kanye West is abusing his ex wife in public?

113 replies

AmandaStaveleysBlackNWhiteArmy · 16/03/2022 16:22

First off want to be clear I’m no KK fan. I think on the whole the Kardashian’s steal a living and contribute little to society.

However KK is a woman and a mother and appears to be being abused very publicly by Kanye West.

Someone needs to take his insta password away from him, he has been on another posting spree this morning aimed at Kim and Pete Davidson and other public figures who have supported them, particularly this guy who made the very real point that if Kim Kardashian can’t extricate herself easily from an abusive man what hope does anyone else have?

metro.co.uk/2022/03/16/trevor-noah-warns-kanye-west-and-kim-kardashian-feud-could-get-violent-16283697/amp/

I appreciate Kanye is an unwell man but I can only imagine the desperation and sense of helplessness KK has right now over the way the father of her children is behaving.

AIBU to think more people should be calling this out and not saying that he’s just a man who wants his wife back and he loves her so much he can’t bear to see her with anyone else. It’s abuse, plain and simple surely?

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Thoosa · 16/03/2022 16:26

He is.

What’s worse is he’s directly involving the DC. Some nonsense yesterday where he claimed his DD was wearing a cryptic visual message about parental alienation on her school bag when he collected her.

I’m surprised KK doesn’t have enough to get his contact terminated by now.

OTOH, she appears to be sleeping with yet another goady manchild who is deliberately inflaming the situation. So dumping him would also be wise:

AmandaStaveleysBlackNWhiteArmy · 16/03/2022 16:28

Yeah, I quite like PD but I think he has form for ‘getting involved’ where perhaps it’s wisest to stay quiet and leaking pics/texts etc.

Having said that I suppose he sees first hand the impact it’s having on someone he cares for.

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BookFiend4Life · 16/03/2022 16:29

Yes I agree. Also not a Kardashian fan but his harassment seems constant and escalating, not to mention he has fans that could be incited to violence or to pile on with other forms of aggression. I assume everything he does is being logged for the eventual custody hearing, after which maybe she can get and injunction or cease and desist against him.

Manekinek0 · 16/03/2022 16:30

I haven't followed the whole thing but yes. Women have been locked up or put under conservatorship, in the US, for less.

Her mother must be incredibly worried especially as she has seen similar before being close friends with Nicole Brown Simpson.

QuebecBagnet · 16/03/2022 16:33

Totally. There was something on Twitter yesterday comparing his behaviour to Britney Spears and saying that Britney got a conservatorship for less. I hope she can get some form of restraining order against him. Feel sorry for the kids.

Elsiebear90 · 16/03/2022 16:36

I totally agree, his behaviour is classic abuse. I think it speaks volumes that Britney Spears and Amanda Bynes get placed under conservatorships while he is allowed to walk around in full blown mania for years and nothing is done. He is a danger to himself, his ex wife and his kids and I think unfortunately unless he is given the help he needs this will end in disaster.

Lesperance · 16/03/2022 16:48

Yes. It's very disturbing, but he is abusing her. Also totally not a fan.

Happierthanever91 · 16/03/2022 16:51

You are allowed to be against his behaviour without having to confirm 'but I'm not a fan of her'. Whether you're a fan or not, he's just as much of a dickhead.

TheCanyon · 16/03/2022 16:53

He's an absolute bellend, always has been.

Rainbowqueeen · 16/03/2022 16:54

He is incredibly entitled. And dangerous.
But people get sucked in to supporting him because he says he just wants to see his kids. When they really should be asking how much time he spent with his kids when he and KK were together. He is using them as weapons and it’s scary to see

Thatswhyimacat · 16/03/2022 16:56

I think Pete has been remarkably quiet considering Kanye is actively encouraging death threats against him, putting out music videos where he decapitated him, and encouraging his fans to troll a man who is known to also have mental health issues.

I don't even want to give him the credit of blaming it on mental illness. The majority of people with mental illness would never try to harm others in this way. Kanye is just a misogynistic narcissistic horrible man and he always has been.

Twentyn1ne · 16/03/2022 17:00

I can't stand the bloke and it baffles me how much some people look up to him as though he's some sort of god.

"Yeezus" really? FFS what a self absorbed narcissistic prick.

SantaHat · 16/03/2022 17:01

Yes. His behaviour is utterly appalling towards his wife and his kids. Absolutely appalling. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Kim or the Kardashians, this is just despicable.
I highly recommend listening to Trevor Noah’s thoughts too. He not only references the abuse his mother suffered (ending in her death) but makes the superb point that if Kim Kardashian, one of the wealthiest and most powerful women in the world, is seemingly unable to do much to prevent this, think how many “normal” women are stuck in these abusive scenarios, unable to escape.
twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1503932558144417792?s=21

MrsBerthaRochester · 16/03/2022 17:10

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northbacchus · 16/03/2022 17:11

[quote SantaHat]Yes. His behaviour is utterly appalling towards his wife and his kids. Absolutely appalling. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Kim or the Kardashians, this is just despicable.
I highly recommend listening to Trevor Noah’s thoughts too. He not only references the abuse his mother suffered (ending in her death) but makes the superb point that if Kim Kardashian, one of the wealthiest and most powerful women in the world, is seemingly unable to do much to prevent this, think how many “normal” women are stuck in these abusive scenarios, unable to escape.
twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1503932558144417792?s=21[/quote]
I'm fairly sure Trevor Noah's mother is still alive, though she was shot twice.

phishy · 16/03/2022 17:12

@Happierthanever91

You are allowed to be against his behaviour without having to confirm 'but I'm not a fan of her'. Whether you're a fan or not, he's just as much of a dickhead.
She’s also allowed to say she’ not a fan of her.

I just can’t bring myself to care about KK. They have enough money for body guards and security, unlike most abused women.

I admit to not knowing anything about it as their lives seem a weird mix of fakery / reality.

TheLadyGrayson · 16/03/2022 17:14

It is abuse, no doubt about it. I wish people didn’t feel the need to state they aren’t a fan of the Kardashians before publicly supporting Kim in this situation. It’s irrelevant to the issue at hand.

AmandaStaveleysBlackNWhiteArmy · 16/03/2022 17:21

@MrsBerthaRochester

Kim Kardashian is relying on folk talking about this to get them to watch her families nee tv show! If she didnt want to have contact with her ex then she could block him. She is rich as hell and can afford the best legal advice. Her and her manky boyfriend are merely encouraging Kanye. Who I also think is a giant twat. I have bpd and when you are in the grips of mania you are not rational. Also his having a God complex is another symptom of his illness. To summarise three twats playing their lives out on social media to get wealthier and the plebs fall for it.
How precisely do you ‘block’ this kind of behaviour?! I’m not sure unfollowing him on insta is quite going to cut it. He has a huge audience of millions of people hanging in his every word. He’s not your average one man band deranged ex, who lets be clear can be overwhelmingly frightening to the ordinary woman. This is next level. He’s producing videos of Pete Davidson being buried alive and inciting violence. She can’t possibly hide away from this. It’s everywhere.

I appreciate what the posters are saying about not having to disclaimer how you feel in general about KK but I suppose I did it to show I’m not swayed or biased because I’m a ‘fan’ of hers.

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AmandaStaveleysBlackNWhiteArmy · 16/03/2022 17:23

I think the point is @phishy she has all of that at her disposal and is still being terrorised by this man. And at the bottom of it all, she is a mother of four children who she will love very much and want to protect from what must be an increasingly distressing situation.

No amount of money on earth can shield you from emotional abuse.

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sweetzy · 16/03/2022 17:26

@MrsBerthaRochester

Kim Kardashian is relying on folk talking about this to get them to watch her families nee tv show! If she didnt want to have contact with her ex then she could block him. She is rich as hell and can afford the best legal advice. Her and her manky boyfriend are merely encouraging Kanye. Who I also think is a giant twat. I have bpd and when you are in the grips of mania you are not rational. Also his having a God complex is another symptom of his illness. To summarise three twats playing their lives out on social media to get wealthier and the plebs fall for it.
Rich, famous and powerful women can still be abused.

You can still court attention and be harassed and abused.

Shove your victim blaming.

tkwal · 16/03/2022 17:26

Am aware of the Kardashians, have never voluntarily watched their show ( daughter used to have it on when I visited)Hard to avoid seeing headlines from time to time and they all seem to make remarkably poor choices when it comes to men.Regardless . NO one deserves to be treated the way KK appears to be at the moment . Who is enabling her ex to behave like this? Why hasn't he been sectioned or arrested ? How do women who don't have KKs vast resources ever have a hope of escaping that kind of abuse ?

balalake · 16/03/2022 17:27

If Kanye West had posted a picture of his ex-wife topless, Instagram would have acted very quickly. Or indeed of a woman breastfeeding.

Yet they continue not to act where hatred or threats are made. Mark Zuckerberg should clean up these social media platforms.

whatajuckingfoke · 16/03/2022 17:27

He's a vile abusive little man who is throwing his toys out of the pram because another boy has taken what he perceives to be his property.

Horrible.

As others have said, women in the US have been shoved in conservatorship a for far less.Thank goodness we don't have awful things like that here.

nocheesegromit · 16/03/2022 17:30

I think he's an abusive twat. I also think if they weren't so well known, he'd probably kill her. He's got family annihilator written all over him. I still don't think she's necessarily out of the woods from an OJ Simpson type situation.

NCforsafety · 16/03/2022 17:33

Sorry to de-rail but why do Mumsnet remove EVERY thread started about an abusive female (Alice Evans) saying there is a real family involved but allow this to go ahead because it's about a man abusing a woman.
Bit hypocritical eh Mumsnet.... subject to a bit of sexism here are we? You have to stop pretending females cannot be abusers too. You are complicit in harming people.