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To think Kanye West is abusing his ex wife in public?

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AmandaStaveleysBlackNWhiteArmy · 16/03/2022 16:22

First off want to be clear I’m no KK fan. I think on the whole the Kardashian’s steal a living and contribute little to society.

However KK is a woman and a mother and appears to be being abused very publicly by Kanye West.

Someone needs to take his insta password away from him, he has been on another posting spree this morning aimed at Kim and Pete Davidson and other public figures who have supported them, particularly this guy who made the very real point that if Kim Kardashian can’t extricate herself easily from an abusive man what hope does anyone else have?

metro.co.uk/2022/03/16/trevor-noah-warns-kanye-west-and-kim-kardashian-feud-could-get-violent-16283697/amp/

I appreciate Kanye is an unwell man but I can only imagine the desperation and sense of helplessness KK has right now over the way the father of her children is behaving.

AIBU to think more people should be calling this out and not saying that he’s just a man who wants his wife back and he loves her so much he can’t bear to see her with anyone else. It’s abuse, plain and simple surely?

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Theunamedcat · 16/03/2022 17:37

She needs to get full custody of those children ASAP because he is unstable and if he is this unstable PUBLICLY how is he privately

Lennybenny · 16/03/2022 17:42

Kim Kardashian = Ioan Gruffudd
Kanye West = Alice Evans

Personally I think Alice is worse than Kanye.

FavouritePi · 16/03/2022 17:42

[quote SantaHat]Yes. His behaviour is utterly appalling towards his wife and his kids. Absolutely appalling. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Kim or the Kardashians, this is just despicable.
I highly recommend listening to Trevor Noah’s thoughts too. He not only references the abuse his mother suffered (ending in her death) but makes the superb point that if Kim Kardashian, one of the wealthiest and most powerful women in the world, is seemingly unable to do much to prevent this, think how many “normal” women are stuck in these abusive scenarios, unable to escape.
twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1503932558144417792?s=21[/quote]
What is infuriating is that Twitter is raging against Trevor Noah's wise words.

I've been following this since the divorce was announced, even though I've never been a Kardashian fan. The situation has real potential to escalate which is probably why it's being reported that she has nothing to do with him anymore as long as she can avoid it.

I was thinking about why he keeps dating women who he makes dress like her then saw two videos this week, one that suggested he controlled what she wore and would not be happy if she didn't wear what he wanted (one of these was the Thierry Mugler dress she wore to the Met Gala). The other video was the trailer for the new Kardashians show and she said he'd said her career was over when they split. I think he's trying to create a protege to take away from her fame to prove she's nothing without him.

Mentally ill, yes, but also very abusive behaviour and I hope someone can stop him. I have to give it to Kim for keeping as quiet as possible publicly but she's started to unravel and responded to his latest cryptic post.

WeAreTheHeroes · 16/03/2022 17:44

His behaviour is appalling and KK should be going for a non-mol and possibly preventing his from having unsupervised access to their poor kids. Who knows what he is saying to them.

Peasock · 16/03/2022 17:47

Obviously we only see a glimpse of their lives so with a pinch of salt- yes he is but this doesn't seem overly new. He has come across very controlling previously, without admitting I used to watch KUWTK, she often said he wouldn't want her wearing x, he wanted her to look more like y and trying to control the content she put out on social media. Its good she left him, how toxic for everyone involved but especially her children. It's shocking he can continue with what his threatening behaviour for millions to see without consequence it seems.

ForeverLooking · 16/03/2022 17:49

Yes, he is an abusive prick.
His back catalogue of narcissistic and misogynistic behaviour speaks for itself, but the amount of support he receives on his vile posts actually shocked me, and its not just from troll accounts, it's from some people with huge followings. Just shows what the general opinion is towards women even now in 2022.

Namechangestimes100 · 16/03/2022 17:54

100% he’s awful. At the beginning I felt a bit sorry for him as he clealry still loved his wife and was struggling to let go, that compounded with his MH issues, but now, he’s the archetype of an abusive ex, weaponising his children and trying to sway public opinion and bully his ex wife into either getting back with him for an easy life or at least to get her to talk to him.

If a woman as powerful and rich as KK can’t ltb this is why so many women stay in crappy marriages

OscarWildebeest · 16/03/2022 18:05

Kanye is absolutely an abuser. He is currently abusing Kim, and he has form for abusing previous girlfriends, most notably Amber Rose, who he still speaks badly about and periodically harasses to this day.
In America, many of the conversations about his behavior are being derailed by accusations of racism, ie ‘You’re only calling him abusive because he is a rich black man, you racist!’ or my personal favorite ‘KK used him like a stud because she wanted beautiful brown babies, then she threw him away, so she deserves everything she gets.” 🙄

RincewindsHat · 16/03/2022 18:06

Kanye West needs a gag order, what he's doing to Kim is unbelievable. If he's saying all this publicly, who knows what he's filling his children's ears with when he sees them. He's happy to blatantly lie, misrepresent reality and make up stories where he is only ever the victim.

While he's bitching about not having 24/7 access to his kids, he never stops to comment that maybe he should not have abandoned his family and moved thousands of miles away to Wyoming...

Hospedia · 16/03/2022 18:17

If she didnt want to have contact with her ex then she could block him. She is rich as hell and can afford the best legal advice

He is also rich as hell and can also afford the best legal advice, he also has an army of fans who he is attempting to whip up. And it doesn't matter how much money you have, police advice on the matter is often "be aware of your surroundings, don't do anything to antagonise him, we can only take action if he actually tries to carry out any of his threats".

ForeverLooking · 16/03/2022 18:27

He is allowing and leaving up comments from his "fans" telling Kanye to give them the "green light". He is weaponising a bunch of obsessives who I think he is the 2nd coming. If I was Kim I'd have serious concerns about his behaviour around the kids and would be fighting every step of the way for him to have supervised only access. His self proclaimed "art" of beheading her boyfriend, the rants that make no sense in the early hours of the morning, the clone girlfriend. It's such concerning behaviour. He needs help, but sadly all he has is a bunch of enablers whipping him up into a frenzy. Most of his "fans" are just enjoying the car crash, not his music or fashion.

PropertyFlipper · 16/03/2022 18:31

No. Can't bring myself to care too much about her, or indeed any of her family.

BridgesofMadisonfan · 16/03/2022 18:34

@Thatswhyimacat

I think Pete has been remarkably quiet considering Kanye is actively encouraging death threats against him, putting out music videos where he decapitated him, and encouraging his fans to troll a man who is known to also have mental health issues.

I don't even want to give him the credit of blaming it on mental illness. The majority of people with mental illness would never try to harm others in this way. Kanye is just a misogynistic narcissistic horrible man and he always has been.

He was until he goaded him with a picture of him and Kim in bed......
Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 16/03/2022 18:40

They are definitely playing out DV dynamic that is usually hidden behind closed doors. And I'm sure we all remember the case Robert Kardashian was most famous for.

WonderfulYou · 16/03/2022 18:42

I am a massive kardashian fan however I don’t think Kanye is being abusive.

Most of his posts are directed at Pete or at how Kim is stopping him from seeing his kids or doing something with he kids that he disagrees with - I can’t see how that’s abusive towards her.

If it was the other way around and she was posting saying he’s taken the kids and not letting her have contact, no one would be calling her crazy and abusive.

No matter what he says it’s obvious he’s jealous of her new relationship and he’s trying to make it about the kids when it’s not.
I feel really sorry for his kids that it’s so public.

WonderfulYou · 16/03/2022 18:46

Sorry to de-rail but why do Mumsnet remove EVERY thread started about an abusive female (Alice Evans) saying there is a real family involved but allow this to go ahead because it's about a man abusing a woman.

It will be removed as it has happened a few times over the past few weeks.

I don’t think it’s actually fair it gets removed or other threads - as I think it’s import to discuss these things and people give their own experiences too.

Sceptre86 · 16/03/2022 18:47

He's been loony for years and she put up with it for a long while. Whether that was because she loved him or that being one half of a powerful couple raised her profile in circles she was excluded from I don't know. Either way she doesn't deserve this and he appears to be a danger to all involved. If he can do this infront of the world to her what hope do other women have. They are over as a couple, she is allowed to move on and live her life on her terms. I feel for her, what an awful situation to be in.

youdoyoutoday · 16/03/2022 19:09

I'm no fan of KK but much less of a fan of KW, the guy is off this planet crazy. KK knew that before getting in to a relationship with him, saw how he treated his ex and the nasty things he said about Amber Rose. I'd have serious misgivings dating a bloke who spoke so poorly of his ex let alone having kids with him.

However, yes KW certainly needs to quieten down on twitter and not invilve the kids in this debacle!

Also, dating Pete Davidson is a huge publicity stunt on KK's part.

nocheesegromit · 16/03/2022 19:10

@WonderfulYou

I am a massive kardashian fan however I don’t think Kanye is being abusive.

Most of his posts are directed at Pete or at how Kim is stopping him from seeing his kids or doing something with he kids that he disagrees with - I can’t see how that’s abusive towards her.

If it was the other way around and she was posting saying he’s taken the kids and not letting her have contact, no one would be calling her crazy and abusive.

No matter what he says it’s obvious he’s jealous of her new relationship and he’s trying to make it about the kids when it’s not.
I feel really sorry for his kids that it’s so public.

He's posted her private text messages (asking him to stop behaving how he is) for millions to see. He's posting (and then deleting) all kinds of mad shit.

He's specifically putting her and their children in danger every time he posts something negative about KK or PD. He has fans who are literally begging him to let them kill PD.

Hadenoughofthisbullshit · 16/03/2022 19:14

It’s very scary, the only thing that I think would help Kanye is if the whole world just ignored him for a few years. Unfortunately the more unhinged he becomes (and let’s face it he hasn’t seen a hinge in a good few years), the more followers he gets gawking at the car crash. There must be some incredibly unscrupulous people making huge amounts of money off this man.

That being said he’s a massive misogynist and nasty person and that has nothing to do with his mental health.

LemonTT · 16/03/2022 19:21

@Lennybenny

Kim Kardashian = Ioan Gruffudd Kanye West = Alice Evans

Personally I think Alice is worse than Kanye.

Wish I could upvote this.

Unfortunately some of Alice’s nutty supporters derail or report threads to get them removed.

I’d say most MN did not condone her behaviour especially now it is evident from the court documents that she is an abuser. Far worse than many people thought.

WonderfulYou · 16/03/2022 19:28

Things like this is why Kanye hates that Pete is around his kids.

I disagree with the way Kanye is going about it and he’s coming across as a twat but I know how I would feel if my children were around someone who I felt was unsafe.

FoldedCard · 16/03/2022 19:30

@ForeverLooking

He is allowing and leaving up comments from his "fans" telling Kanye to give them the "green light". He is weaponising a bunch of obsessives who I think he is the 2nd coming. If I was Kim I'd have serious concerns about his behaviour around the kids and would be fighting every step of the way for him to have supervised only access. His self proclaimed "art" of beheading her boyfriend, the rants that make no sense in the early hours of the morning, the clone girlfriend. It's such concerning behaviour. He needs help, but sadly all he has is a bunch of enablers whipping him up into a frenzy. Most of his "fans" are just enjoying the car crash, not his music or fashion.
Not only that, but he publicly named his children's school in a rant to his followers. Incredibly stupid and dangerous behaviour.
WonderfulYou · 16/03/2022 19:31

I’m sorry but any man who thinks shit like this is funny is vile and I wouldn’t want my kids around him.

To think Kanye West is abusing his ex wife in public?
Joinedforthis22 · 16/03/2022 19:31

She needs to dump Pete's arse as well. Sending pictures to her ex saying "I'm in bed with your wife" is so gross, especially as he has form for this and it's the alleged reason Arianna Grande dumped him after she discovered he'd done the same to her ex, she was told by the ex family after the guy had committed suicide.

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