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To think Kanye West is abusing his ex wife in public?

113 replies

AmandaStaveleysBlackNWhiteArmy · 16/03/2022 16:22

First off want to be clear I’m no KK fan. I think on the whole the Kardashian’s steal a living and contribute little to society.

However KK is a woman and a mother and appears to be being abused very publicly by Kanye West.

Someone needs to take his insta password away from him, he has been on another posting spree this morning aimed at Kim and Pete Davidson and other public figures who have supported them, particularly this guy who made the very real point that if Kim Kardashian can’t extricate herself easily from an abusive man what hope does anyone else have?

metro.co.uk/2022/03/16/trevor-noah-warns-kanye-west-and-kim-kardashian-feud-could-get-violent-16283697/amp/

I appreciate Kanye is an unwell man but I can only imagine the desperation and sense of helplessness KK has right now over the way the father of her children is behaving.

AIBU to think more people should be calling this out and not saying that he’s just a man who wants his wife back and he loves her so much he can’t bear to see her with anyone else. It’s abuse, plain and simple surely?

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beddygu · 16/03/2022 19:31

Isn't it all just for press/ratings for the new show

Windbeneathmybingowings · 16/03/2022 19:31

I felt kind of sorry for Alice evans - what’s happened?

Boopeedoop · 16/03/2022 19:40

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/kanye-west-blasts-kim-kardashian-5428590
I'll never forget when this happened.

He's always been abusive.

I hope she has really good security. I think she will need it.

RealBecca · 16/03/2022 19:50

I'm surprised people are surprised. He has form for it.

The entitled way he stole Taylor Swifts moment at the Grammys, the way he set her up on the phone and leaked a fake version and the way he incited an entire concert of his to haunt "fuck taylor swift".

That isnt a man that respects women.

FoldedCard · 16/03/2022 20:16

@RealBecca

I'm surprised people are surprised. He has form for it.

The entitled way he stole Taylor Swifts moment at the Grammys, the way he set her up on the phone and leaked a fake version and the way he incited an entire concert of his to haunt "fuck taylor swift".

That isnt a man that respects women.

Not to mention that nude waxwork of Taylor Swift in bed in one of his videos.

He's a narcissistic, mysogynist creep.

Cremeegg456 · 16/03/2022 20:25

I remember a few years ago he publicly said he'd had to take 20 showers after dating Amber Rose, and so realised back then what sort of man he was

SalmonEile · 16/03/2022 20:31

@FoldedCard I’m honestly shocked there wasn’t more outrage about that waxwork at the time - it was truly disgusting but the public were too busy delighting in Taylor Swift being called a snake it would seem.
And Kim was heavily involved in that, how on earth did she think what her husband was doing was ok or something to be proud of - unless she was being controlled by him or was scared of him at the time , which is entirely possible.

AmandaStaveleysBlackNWhiteArmy · 16/03/2022 20:45

God he’s a horror. I didn’t know the half of it.

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Opti2021 · 17/03/2022 00:27

I remember watching some episodes of KUWTK where Kanye was extremely controlling.
In one episode he replaced all of her clothes with 'neutral' coloured clothes and berated her about the outfits she wore before he styled her.
In another episode, Kim went on holiday with Khloe and Kourtney. She called Kanye every morning and told him what she was planned to wear that day and he either approved it or disagreed and told her which outfit to put on. One of the days on holiday she was in a huge panic because Kourtney was wearing a really bizzare bright outfit and they were photographed by paparazzi. She was in a tizz that Kanye would see it and be annoyed that her sister's outfit would reflect badly on the image he was trying to create for her.
I remember watching it thinking WTF...why is no one calling this out for what it is!

Quirkyme · 17/03/2022 00:30

YANBU. As I'm sure you know.

Quirkyme · 17/03/2022 00:32

To add, he's been suspended on IG (not sure how long for) for bullying behaviour now.

He tried to call out Trevor Noah today after he spoke on the situation on his Daily Show, Trevor Noah said nothing wrong at all.

DreamTheMoors · 17/03/2022 01:29

Kanye (I use that out of disrespect) is referred to as a “genius” and “brilliant.”

Nope. He’s a spoiled bully and an asshole who doesn’t like not getting his own way.

What kind of “genius” announces he’s going to run for president, but ends up on the ballot as VP to some obscure nobody?

Kanye, that’s who. He’s got severe mental illness problems and the people closest to him should be getting him help instead of encouraging him or ignoring him — IF he even has anyone left that’s close to him.
This morning on Instagram he was whinging that no major stars were backing him up.
Well, duh.

GiantHaystacks2021 · 17/03/2022 01:31

He's a knob.

He needs to get treatment for what is alleged to be his pi-polar disorder.
Also it is alleged that he is gay and needs to come to terms with it.

DreamTheMoors · 17/03/2022 01:38

@Quirkyme

What he called Noah was absolutely disgusting. And stupid — did Kanye not realize he was calling himself that very same thing? Evidently not.
He’s just getting more appalling by the hour — I’m thrilled to hear IG suspended him. Thank you for that info — I found TN to be quite eloquent considering what happened to his mum.

SpidersAreShitheads · 17/03/2022 02:38

To be blunt, I don't think KK is always doing the right things behind closed doors, despite projecting a saintly image in public.

For example, Kanye has said he doesn't want North - who is 8 yrs old - to be posting on TikTok. And I think that's a fairly reasonable request, even if she does it under parental supervision. So what does KK do? Lets North repeatedly post on TikTok, knowing that it's going to enrage Kanye. And I think the latest post was a song North was singing with pretty explicit lyrics.

They're supposed to be co-parenting. If KK had said no to TikTok for North, but Kanye was letting her post, people would be quick to condemn him for ignoring her wishes.

So I don't think that KK is quite as innocent as she seems, and I suspect that at least part of these shenanigans are being considered as good publicity/substance for her new reality show.

But....

Having said all of that - Kanye is absolutely awful. I can't believe the shit he's getting away with saying, and it genuinely is truly shocking.

He put KK through the wringer even before they split, announcing publicly that she considered a termination etc. I think he's severely mentally ill with delusions of grandeur, but you can be mentally ill and also a ginormous, misogynistic, arrogant prick. Which he is. And those two things combined are extremely concerning.

I guess she feels quite safe because of her security. But I think it would be smarter for her to dial down her behaviour, and for Pete Davidson to stop inflaming things too. This isn't about victim blaming - it's about being safe around someone who's incredibly volatile, and potentially dangerous.

I really hope Kanye moves onto a new obsession and all this passes.

I also think that those who have pointed out that if he was female he'd be under a conservatorship by now have got a bloody good point.

I really can't predict how this is going to end right now, but it does highlight the predicament that women face. Imagine if KK wasn't rich. It would be sickeningly scary. At least she's protected.

Kanaloa · 17/03/2022 02:42

He’s a horrible person. I dislike her massively as well but I don’t think she deserves this. I think she could do with having a good look at her life rather than jumping out of the Kanye fire and into the Pete Davidson frying pan.

Kanaloa · 17/03/2022 02:48

Not that I think she would ever have a look at her life. The whole lot of them are utterly out of touch with the real world and those of us who live in it. So yeah, it’s hard because I really do dislike her for some of the things she’s said and done but I dislike him even further.

avamiah · 17/03/2022 02:58

Firstly he is extremely wealthy and very famous and in my opinion that is what has kept him from being Sectioned under the Mental Health Act or whatever term is used over there to admit a person into a mental health hospital against their will for a initial assessment.

Malibuismysecrethome · 17/03/2022 02:59

Sorry but KK desperate and helpless I’m not buying that.
KW is being abused and humiliated by her new boyfriend, Pete someone or the other, posting that he’s in bed with his ex wife. Lowlife trash.

Malibuismysecrethome · 17/03/2022 03:00

And I agree with him re the Kardashian’s marketing their children and North’s TikTok account at 8 years of age.

Kanaloa · 17/03/2022 03:17

@Malibuismysecrethome

And I agree with him re the Kardashian’s marketing their children and North’s TikTok account at 8 years of age.
I mean he didn’t seem to have an issue with her being on the reality programme or posing at public events like music launches with him. That’s what makes it look hypocritical/as if he’s just using it as a stick to beat her with.

Either you don’t want your kids to be used as marketing props or you think it’s ok. You can’t think it’s ok for you to do it but not your wife.

Malibuismysecrethome · 17/03/2022 03:23

Attending a music launch with your father is different to having a TikTok account.
Team Kanye I think he’s being treated appallingly my KK and that Pete bloke who by the way is a drug user and in and out of Rehab. I wouldn’t want him round my children either.

expat101 · 17/03/2022 04:00

The thing is most of the family have at times, put out some very confrontational and appalling stuff and things I wouldn’t like to see of my family on worldwide tv.

It’s built them a brand, name, and buckets of money and probably opened doors that wouldn’t be open to the likes of any of us.

Yes, I think his behaviour is appalling and the guy comes across as totally delusional. However the same can be said of many of their episodes too.

Just stop the entire nonsense. They have had their 10 minutes and can retire. Let’s move on and hopefully find something to watch that our daughters can aspire to in building future empires for themselves.

FavouritePi · 17/03/2022 04:09

He's happy to use his children publicly to fuel a media frenzy over this though? He's happy to have his daughter in public with him after he's whipped up all of this frenzy to the point people are booing him when she's with him in public. He doesn't seem to understand the implications of any of it or the damage to their relationships with their parents. It's toxic. If he has a good legal case, he needs to get on with it and stop posting on SM.

I don't agree with an 8 year old on TikTok but I just looked and the comments are turned off and recent videos have been deleted. It seems to be a type of compromise from KK but perhaps she feels he's trying to control his kids/her interaction with them too?

I can see there's things happening to inflame him, but if he sought the help he needed and took his medication then maybe he'd be a bit more level headed and work through this respectfully and privately.

KK makes terrible relationship decisions, all of her siblings do. PD may not be the ideal man but it's said he takes his medication and seeks help for his MH via rehab when he needs it. I don't think anyone should smoke marijuana so definitely don't agree with PD if he does but I'm sure Hollywood is full of celebrities on a drug of some kind, overused prescription or otherwise. Surely the important thing is it's not around the children or, who knows, he may have decided to stop. KW has just finished dating someone who openly used to shoot up meth and hung out with meth addicts and prostitutes, she called it an experience she was glad she had. She always seemed a mile a minute, perhaps neither are good judges of character.

Kanaloa · 17/03/2022 04:18

@Malibuismysecrethome

Attending a music launch with your father is different to having a TikTok account. Team Kanye I think he’s being treated appallingly my KK and that Pete bloke who by the way is a drug user and in and out of Rehab. I wouldn’t want him round my children either.
What about selling their image on a public television programme? Posting public picture of their toys/items to illustrate your arguments with their mother for the whole world to see?

No use pretending he’s the good guy in this. She’s ignorant and ridiculous but he’s cruel and hypocritical.