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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 09/03/2022 22:19

Oh dear. You remember that plane of Trump's that was quietly rotting away in an airport somewhere? N757AF?

www.rawstory.com/trump-plan-emergency-landing-again/

To be absolutely fair (oh why? must we? I hear you cry?) it is possible that the plane which lamentably failed to ditch him in the Gulf of Mexico may have been a loaner from a GOP donor. But it would be more like poetic justice if it had been the one he left to rot while he was president.

prettybird · 11/03/2022 14:18

Snake oil salesmen Lawyers feeding the big toddler the information he wanted to here even though they knew they'd lose.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-lawyers-john-eastman-and-jeffrey-clark-breathed-life-into-trumps-big-lie?ref=scroll

AcrossthePond55 · 12/03/2022 16:49

www.salon.com/2022/03/11/wants-his-fans-to-pay-for-new-trump-force-one-plane-after-landing/

Trump begging for money to buy himself a new jet after emergency landing. Email quote from the article:

"Do you want to see the new Trump Force One?" the email asked, with a link to a site that asks for monthly recurring donations of up to $2,500.

"I have a very important update on my plane, but I need to trust that you won't share it with anyone," said the email, which was signed by Trump (and presumably sent to many thousands of actual or possible donors). "My team is building a BRAND NEW Trump Force One."

"The construction of this plane has been under wraps," the email said, "not even the fake news media knows about it — and I can't wait to unveil it for everyone to see."

🙄🙄🙄🙄

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 14/03/2022 17:41

Did this horrible little man not realise that in this video appearance, he was admitting to having known in advance that there would be a riot on 6.1.21?

www.rawstory.com/madison-cawthorn-on-january-6-admitted-he-was-armed-and-had-carried-multiple-weapons-in-his-wheelchair-video/

If he didn't know it, why would he have gone armed and armed his fellow members of congress?

PerkingFaintly · 14/03/2022 21:56

Kremlin memos urged Russian media to use Tucker Carlson clips – report
www.theguardian.com/media/2022/mar/14/kremlin-memos-russian-media-tucker-carlson-fox-news-mother-jones

To be fair, it's entirely possible to take clips out of context. I haven't watched either the Russian usage or the original to judge.

But according to the article Carlson has repeated Russian disinformation even when it's been debunked.

AcrossthePond55 · 15/03/2022 15:14

@PerkingFaintly

Kremlin memos urged Russian media to use Tucker Carlson clips – report www.theguardian.com/media/2022/mar/14/kremlin-memos-russian-media-tucker-carlson-fox-news-mother-jones

To be fair, it's entirely possible to take clips out of context. I haven't watched either the Russian usage or the original to judge.

But according to the article Carlson has repeated Russian disinformation even when it's been debunked.

Yeah, well, it's pretty easy to know exactly what Fucker Carlson's words mean and the context is pretty clear no matter how you edit the 'clips'.

Nothing like being made into a fascist PR tool, is there Fucker? Oh wait! You been a 'tool' for decades and a fascist tool since at least 2015.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/03/2022 15:50

Meanwhile Morning Joe is strongly of the opinion that people in congress ought to keep their traps shut about what the USA might be planning to do for/in/about Ukraine, just as he felt very strongly that Lindsey Graham calling for someone to assassinate Putin was a moronic bit of bandwagon-jumping.

"Careless talk costs lives" is still a good motto for people in power to live by.

PerkingFaintly · 15/03/2022 21:16

Meanwhile two Fox News reporters were killed and a third injured in Ukraine yesterday.

Fox News cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski and Ukrainian journalist killed in Kyiv
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60756503

AcrossthePond55 · 15/03/2022 21:42

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Meanwhile Morning Joe is strongly of the opinion that people in congress ought to keep their traps shut about what the USA might be planning to do for/in/about Ukraine, just as he felt very strongly that Lindsey Graham calling for someone to assassinate Putin was a moronic bit of bandwagon-jumping.

"Careless talk costs lives" is still a good motto for people in power to live by.

My dad (WWII vet) used the old wartime phrase "Loose lips sink ships" for the rest of his life to convey a need to 'zip it'.
AcrossthePond55 · 15/03/2022 21:46

[quote PerkingFaintly]Meanwhile two Fox News reporters were killed and a third injured in Ukraine yesterday.

Fox News cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski and Ukrainian journalist killed in Kyiv
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60756503[/quote]
So, Fox News, are you gonna tune your rhetoric and bullshit down, now that it's become 'personal'? Or are you going to find a way to blame this on Pres Biden, too?

Condolences to their families, of course, it's a terrible loss to them.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/03/2022 21:53

There was someone employed by Fox News laying into I think it was Tucker Carlson and saying he was talking bullshit, a couple of days ago. With facts and figures to back her up and everything. I don't think they are as completely united in their fascism now as they have been in the past.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/03/2022 14:01

I haven't been able yet to find a complete transcription of Zelenskyy's speech to Congress, but here's the jist.

www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/zelensky-addresses-congress-watch-live-stream-today-03-16-2022/

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2022 16:02

Meanwhile on Russian state TV: host of 60 Minutes Olga Skabeeva said:

“Our acquaintance, the host of Fox News Tucker Carlson, obviously has his own interests —but lately, more and more often, they're in tune with our own."

twitter.com/juliadavisnews/status/1503953333836521472?s=21

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/03/2022 17:02

Across, will this do?

www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/transcript-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy-addresses-congress/ar-AAV8Mai

It's a translation, though.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/03/2022 18:09

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Perfect, thanks! And what a wonderful and heart-touching speech.

I wish we were doing more, militarily, like sending fighter jets via a 'lend/lease' program, like between the US and UK before Pearl Harbor. I do understand the supposed 'issue' with a no fly zone. It authorizes the shooting down of any aircraft violating the zone. And since Putin won't pay any attention to a NFZ it definitely means escalation beyond that which Ukraine can do on its own.

I'm harking back to WWII with 'Tokyo Rose' and 'Lord Haw Haw' here. But I wonder if there are similar broadcasts going out to Russian troops via VOA or Radio Free Europe. From what I'm hearing it seems that many of the Russian soldiers captured are saying they had been lied to by the Govt and that they don't want to be there but know they can't just give up and go home. Maybe if they had a 'Moscow Mary' or 'Petrograd Paul' broadcasting online/on the air telling the truth about Putin and urging Russian troops to surrender or 'mutiny' they could get them to turn on their commanders. IDK, maybe that's 'old technology' and/or they aren't allowed phones/radios just for that reason.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/03/2022 21:57

Maybe the Russian soldiers don't have phones; there was that touching story about the Russian soldier who surrendered and then burst into tears because he was given a phone so that he could ring his mum, which suggests either not having a phone himself, or a piece of clever propaganda by the Ukranians.

Roussette · 17/03/2022 06:56

I agree Across I want planes flying over Russia dropping leaflets telling people the truth.
Which is why I am in such admiration of the journo with her sign saying No to Eart on state TV.
She may have well just got a fine for now but I fear for her life

Roussette · 17/03/2022 06:57

No to WAR.

No idea where eart came from, stupid phone

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/03/2022 15:23

Further to the phone thing; when my daughter was posted in Afghan, sh warned me that there would be time when her phone was not working; this happened every time someone was killed, to be sure that their next of kin was told properly and didn't for instance see it on social media put up by one of the same patrol as the dead soldier. So it may well be that something of the same sort happens in the Russian army, only all the time so people at home won't know what is going on.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/03/2022 13:31

I find this chilling:

www.rawstory.com/firing-squad-south-carolina/

What sort of person it is who volunteers to kill a random stranger?

" Last year, The State newspaper published interviews with former South Carolina executioners who said they had suffered psychologically from putting people to death," the newspaper noted." but I feel that these volunteers would already be psychologically dubious -- unless they were doing it for revenge on a particular individual, and that would be even worse.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 20/03/2022 13:04

This, on the other hand, made me laugh aloud.

twitter.com/ShutDown_DC/status/1505312396839206912

and from further down that thread

twitter.com/Lovemypupper/status/1505328712505597954

DuncinToffee · 23/03/2022 21:51

Madeleine Albright has died, RIP

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2022 09:40

Obituary: Madeleine Albright, the first female US secretary of state
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48401172

I hadn't realised quite how much she'd done. Amazing woman.

And apparently she had a broach habit not dissimilar to the Queen's.Grin

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 24/03/2022 13:52

Didn't the Queen wear a brooch made from lots and lots of rubies, specifically supposed to ward off evil, when she met the Trumps?

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2022 14:58

Not according to this article:
www.vox.com/2018/7/19/17586942/queen-elizabeth-brooch-warfare-trump-obama-code

But she did wear one which was a gift from the Obamas and another which was a gift from Canada. All Trump's favourite people together. Grin

(And a minor note: phew, I haven't lost my marbles, broach is US spelling and the UK spelling is brooch! Apologies for taking the wrong turning before I'd checked...)

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