To think, no BBC, Phil Spector was not 'flawed'

[KathleenTurnerOverdrive]

He was a convicted murderer with a long history of violence, coercive control of women and intimidation with firearms.

I get he's just died and his reputation as one of the world's greatest producer is beyond question, but come on BBC, you're massively minimising his crimes.

Agree.

Totally agree.

I saw that too. 😒

Yup

Agree.

Totally Argee.

Wow. Agree. This really needs to stop.

Agreed.

Spot on.

agree

Agreed.

Agree. He’s revolting

Yes really tactless choice of words there.

FFS. Typical. Being a deranged abuser and murderer is not being ‘flawed’.

There is a thread about this on feminism board, where some Rolling Stone statingbthat his legacy as 'marred' by a murder conviction.

He was a fucking violent murderer ffs.

Definitely. Some murderers can be insanely talented, but it doesn't mitigate the fact they have committed monstrous crimes. Making their talent the main descriptor, with a nod to their crime, totally minimises it.

Sorry, that sounds like gibberish, but I hope you can understand it.

so depressing
no wonder we are where we are

Yup, I saw that headline and was shocked. It's insulting for the family of the woman he murdered.

Abused all his partners
Abused his children
Killed someone

The abuse was well known while he was working in the industry - with fellow abusers Ike Turner and John Lennon. He held female singers in ridiculous contracts and abused power over them.

yes, flawed sounds like he was a creative genius who unfortunately also took drugs, couldn't look after himself, or got into scrapes like oliver reid, ie as if the harm done was mostly to himself.
whereas in this case the fact that he died in prison for homicide is kinda relevant...

He was utter scum

RIP LANA

“Violent” would have done the job.

The BBC have also reported it under other headlines such as:
Phil Spector: Pop producer jailed for murder dies at 81
Maybe the inappropriateness of it was pointed out to them?

Agree it’s a completely inappropriate headline and I’d be very surprised if they don’t amend it pretty quickly. Clearly written/edited by someone who didn’t bother to do much research on the man.