Presidential Debate season, let's stand strong together! (Trump thread #105)

[Roussette]

Here we are!

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Yes. And it won't be reported. That's the problem.

This is quite a read

thebulwark.com/the-weirdest-90-seconds-in-presidential-history/

Meant to add.... it's being called

'His Mussolini moment'

I've just seen that more recent clip CC posted of her mother.

"So Mr President, either you were lying about having Covid for political purposes, or you did have it but don't give a stuff about the health of the WH staff or the American people. Which is it?"

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/05/trumps-desperation-to-leave-hospital-shows-the-dangers-ahead

Many students of Trump’s life and career have warned that he would be prepared to sacrifice anyone – even those closest to him – to spare himself the humiliation of a one-term presidency, but even they surely could not have anticipated how literal that sacrifice would be.

It involved creating a culture in the White House in which the wearing of masks was scoffed at, and seen as a sign of disloyalty, the worst sin in the Trump court. Trump drove home the message on Monday night, staging a spectacle of his return to the White House maskless, with photographers forced to be in attendance. He has produced a toxic workplace to the point of potential lethality.

I watched the video clip in the article before I read it (Like Across I just couldn't watch his "return from the dead") and I noted every single one of the points that the writer made. Trump was most definitely struggling to breathe and was very unsteady. This probably won't end well. (For him)

I can't believe KC doesn't have the sense to realise that a phone in the hand of a 15 year old can be a thing.

CNN has (distant) video of Trump doing a reshoot of his entrance to the White House, maskless of course.
I am so fucking angry

He looks very poorly and if there was a caring family member you would be having an intervention.

He said
'maybe I'm immune, I dunno'

No you have it, you total imbecile.

I’ll be glad when his updates and utterances aren’t beamed here as first news report.

Bet he’s lapping up increased interest.

Heard person on R4 say he’s our leader he can beat anything

I am waiting for him to drop in some comment about the superior genes.

I've just watched the video of him in front of the White House entrance. Gasping. Thumbs up. Why is he doing this to himself? Yes - if course- why is he putting others at risk, that goes without saying. But to himself too. The cameras are rolling and he's the star of the greatest show- largely one in his own mind. Bring back absolute monarchy. Born in the wrong century, he must feel.

What we all know and what Trump is ignoring...

I have to say I am appalled with his medical team, they have this on themselves for letting him back to WH, and his family... what the hell are they doing?
So he wanted to leave on Sunday, So they placated him with a drive around, then he basically discharged himself.

Fauci comments

www.thedailybeast.com/dr-anthony-fauci-warns-that-trumps-doctors-need-to-be-prepared-for-reversal-with-coronavirus?ref=home&via=twitter_page

@lionheart

I can't believe KC doesn't have the sense to realise that a phone in the hand of a 15 year old can be a thing.

Particularly when you were supposed to leave the WH and ended up getting infected.

It must be a happy home.

I do wonder if KC is a double agent sometimes - bit convenient that so many “leaks” come out from her daughter 😜

Yes Roussette that's where my anger is greatest - the medical team. Standing outside WR hospital before he was discharged "yuck yucking" about "He's back" and "seen the tweets" and "phenomenal patient ". They didn't even have the decency to look uncomfortable with what they were doing and saying. How can they shit on their medical colleagues in hospitals all around the USA (and world) who are hanging on by a tiny exhausted thread?

But as DH commented when I ranted - "just because they have medical degrees doesn't necessarily make them good people "

But all of them...?

Well if the worst happens I really hope they arent subjected to some sort of enquiry for professional misconduct. I am sure he is a terrible bully. It must be hard to feel you can stand up to him and keep you job.

Dan Rather, pithy and pissed-off.

NorthWest Agree. I would've thought that a medical team weren't spin doctors (excuse the pun), PR people just there to big up a patient, and fudgers of the truth.
I bet some of the doctors stood behind Conley felt uncomfortable. Thank goodness for them they had masks on, their faces were then unreadable.

Agree OVienna I bet he is an awful bully.

I read this...
'When Trump walked through the doors, Walter Reed MC had a stellar reputation, as he walks out 72 hours later, its reputation is in tatters. There is nothing Trump can't ruin.'

Meanwhile the Supreme Court new session has started and apparently they (usual suspects) are proposing to debate and overturn the right to equal marriage. RBG isn't even cold yet and they're trampling over her with their jack boots.

The Supreme Court turned away Kim Davis' case, but Thomas (joined by Alito) wrote a jaw-dropping rant taking direct aim at Obergefell and suggesting that SCOTUS must overturn the right to marriage equality in order to protect free exercise. supremecourt.gov/orders/courtor…
twitter.com/mjs_dc/status/1313110698201841665?s=21

There is a big hoo ha going on about Wednesday's VP Debate.

I read Trump wants to attend, I'm sure that's not true!

But Kamala is wanting plexiglass between her and Pence. Pence's team are saying they don't want it (a reminder of Covid obviously) and now he doesn't want lecterns, but wants to be sat down...

Bottom line. Democrats adhere to Covid guidelines to stop spreading the disease
Republicans ignore covid guidelines and don't care how many die.

"Mussolini moment". I look forward to the day he meets a similar end.

Reasons to be cheerful:

A later effect of COVID infection is hair loss

Ah...
Kelly, Kelly, Kelly...
You're not just Con-way by marriage, are you?

Kellyanne Conway @KellyannePolls

My daughter, Claudia, is beautiful & brilliant. She has access to top doctors & health care & lives comfortably

Like all of you, she speculates on social media

Yet she’s 15

You are adults

We have COVID, but it’s clear who’s really sick