The Disunited States of Trump (Trump Thread #104)

[TheNorthWestPawsage]

Trump used manipulation and race-baiting four years ago. He’s at it again. We are weary and worried but we shall persist.

Cartoon by Chris Riddell.

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DH said he'd read that there would be no audience and that Trumps people were worried he would be "flat" as he needs his public to perform to.

@Roussette

Does anyone know if it will have a live audience (even if socially distanced) When we had some live debates last year the best ones were when the audience were asked not to clap, participate, shout etc... it meant there was no hiding place. It's like Johnson in parliament now, he doesn't have hordes of braying MPs backing him up. I think if there is no audience that will serve Biden far better than Trump.

According the BBC the second debate is a Town Hall format so there will definitely questions from real people but not sure if they are "there" or contributing via video link.

2am is too late for me to watch in the uk

Politico says 75-80 people in audience.

No handshakes, limited audience: Covid shapes final Trump-Biden debate talks
The two candidates and moderator Chris Wallace will not wear masks at Tuesday's debate, per final negotiations between the campaigns.
www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/09/26/trump-biden-debate-coronavirus-422040

Glad to hear that. Yes he needs an audience so this is good.

I wonder if Eric is telling the truth here?
news.yahoo.com/eric-trump-president-concede-election-004800626.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJRW2FUomLuX0Z-nW-u16y6_0Wn19RdIdnykFrNOuvfMl5KVqDvqid90FAyPvD55V5zkyVwmeksgtwWlIlGNib54P9dkjJK0_l8Q6VCOF8eTJ2_DrJjf3l4JwUBhcHMM_t5I1quCYM4MM13gINE9AeHuQ8iYS_0lc68hF_5lOdZK

"Eric Trump told a crowd of his father's supporters at an event in Las Vegas that President Donald Trump would concede the election “if he got blown out of the water” by Democratic nominee Joe Biden after the president had cast doubts on a peaceful transfer of power once the race is decided"

Bruce will it be 2am UK time?
My sleep is shot to pieces at the moment, and I did watch most of Hillary's debates so I might try. But it's a vicious circle because watching then causes lack of sleep!

Thanks NW.
Trumpy gets the first question then. That will be his high spot and hopefully it will all go downhill from then on for him

I think it's unlikely that I'll still be awake at 2am but if it coincides with an old lady nocturnal bathroom visit maybe I'll be able to tune in!

@AcrossthePond55

I also hope the presenter is firm about interruptions, Trump loves talking over people

The moderator is Chris Wallace. A Fox News anchor. So we shall see.

Chris Wallace and Trump.

As if Eric has any influence or even knows how his dad puppet master will do.

I'll just plant this little sign here.

Behind the paywall I'm afraid but this is on the ways in which humour can be used to deflate authoritarians:

www.nytimes.com/2020/09/26/opinion/sunday/trump-politics-humor.html?referringSource=articleShare

Ok, Lweji, I'll buy that Chris Wallace may not exactly be a Sean Hannity. But I reserve my rights to scream at the TV anyway.

@Cacacoisfarraige

He is rather like a turkey and hopefully gone by thanksgiving too.

lol!

Amen!

@Cacacoisfarraige

He is rather like a turkey and hopefully gone by thanksgiving too.

Hopefully after being well stuffed

Trumpp's latest tweet...

"I will be strongly demanding a Drug Test of Sleepy Joe Biden prior to, or after, the Debate on Tuesday night. Naturally, I will agree to take one also. His Debate performances have been record setting UNEVEN, to put it mildly. Only drugs could have caused this discrepancy???"

Is this a wise move for Trump to demand given his errrmmm 'possible' drug use?

To me that sounds like Trumpy is panicing a bit. If it goes well for Biden he can say he's on drugs

Biden on drugs would be better than Trump in any condition.

And every accusation is actually a confession

Trump always reminds me of Toad of Toad Hall when he stands there with that self satisfied look on his face

I live in the US, and in a red state. I’m starting to feel genuinely worried about whether it’s safe to stay.

Welcome welcome welcome IncorrigibleTitmouse

Why thank you, @Roussette! My job relies on me knowing what’s in the news and it’s an active, daily struggle to keep up with it.

I know!
Pop in and out on here if you can. If I'm missing what is happening in US with Trump, I always find a good update here!
And it saves me trawling lots of news sites.

I prefer to watch colbert's dissection of the debate than sitting through the whole thing.
much better for my blood pressure.

I think Biden should quietly agree to a drug test, provided always that Trump has one as well.

I am fairly confident which would be more likely to run away screaming if it were seriously suggested.