Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Rachel Riley

159 replies

incognitomum · 04/06/2020 14:56

God she's stunning. Her figure!!

I've just watched countdown and she mentioned her dc being 1. She looks perfect.

Plus she seems really nice too.

And mega brain.

Oh well sigh

OP posts:
user1471565182 · 05/06/2020 00:47

Rachel RIley encouraged people to vote for Boris Johnsons. Boris Johnson is racist towards black people.

SuckingDieselFella · 05/06/2020 00:51

@FliesandPies

The Palestinians could have had their own state many years ago but they have refused to negotiate with Israel because they won't recognise that it exists

'The Palestinians' won't recognise Israel? That ignorant statement highlights your real agenda - that 'The Palestinians' are all of like mind with Hamas so are 'all terrorists' and not to be trusted in your eyes.

Hamas have NOT refused to negotiate with Israel, they have set conditions for negotiations, as have Israel. Conditions set by both sides usually prevent negotiations as the other side won't accept them.

Israel is in breach of International Law and UN resolutions in it's treatment of Palestine and constantly blocks attempts by Palestine to be recognised as a state in it's own right - i.e. they want to deny the right of Palestine to exist.

Oh, and i'm not a fan of Riley.

The Palestinians won't recognise Israel. Correct. Their elected representatives Hamas state in their charter that they will drive Israel into the sea. Hamas are elected with a huge majority. Google is your friend. If you don't know about this, look it up.

"your real agenda - that 'The Palestinians' are all of like mind with Hamas so are 'all terrorists' and not to be trusted in your eyes." Either post evidence I have said this or give over with your childish flaming.

As long as there is Palestinian terrorism then of course Israel won't want a Palestinian state to exist. An Islamist state armed by its wealthy neighbours on Israel's doorstep and you see nothing wrong with this? Yes how dare those terrible Israelis object to this. I can't think what their problem might be. What planet do you live on?

pumpkinbump · 05/06/2020 01:26

I don't like her and I don't think she's particularly pretty either, let alone stunning.

CayrolBaaaskin · 05/06/2020 04:28

@SuckingDieselFella - well done at standing up to the anti semites. Jews have always lived in Israel, well before the creation of the modern state of Israel. Being a Zionist doesn’t mean you agree with Israeli government policy at any given time or have any particular position on a two state solution or self determination for the Palestinians. It simply means you believe in Israel’s right to exist.

Chicchicchicchiclana · 05/06/2020 05:16

I've gone off her since seeing those photos.

FliesandPies · 05/06/2020 10:37

As long as there is Palestinian terrorism then of course Israel won't want a Palestinian state to exist.

So a state that engages in acts of aggression should not exist in your opinion..interesting. And you have changed your argument now you're on the back foot - apparently it's not that Palestine could have had a solution if they negotiated, it's that Israel won't negotiate with terrorists. Exactly the kind of mindfuck tactics that Israel has engaged in for years to stop any progress.

"your real agenda - that 'The Palestinians' are all of like mind with Hamas so are 'all terrorists' and not to be trusted in your eyes." Either post evidence I have said this or give over with your childish flaming.

You dropped your facade of pretending it was all about Hamas to talk about 'The Palestinians' - so the whole of the Palestinian population then ? Just an amorphous bunch of terrorists in your eyes, which is exactly how they are treated by the Israeli Gov. You posted the evidence The Palestinians could have had their own state many years ago but they have refused to negotiate with Israel because they won't recognise that it exists

Your pitiful threadbare arguments clearly demonstrate the narrow thinking that has allowed this tragic situation to continue for so many generations, destroy lives and hopes and encourage terrorist acts around the world.

No one who listens to your kind of talk would ever have hope of a solution because according to you it's all about how Israel is blameless and has to defend itself from 'The Palestinians' despite the fact that Israel is a military superpower backed up by the USA and Palestine can't even get recognised by a state in its own right - and that's because Israel wants to deny Palestine's right to exist.

1forsorrow · 05/06/2020 11:16

So say someone comes along to the country you live in and say, "This is historically my land, get out of your home, leave your farm and if you all do what we say we will let you have a state of your own. Obviously you can't have your home and farm back if it is in "our" state and we aren't going to give you any compensation as we think we are right." Who would be cool with that? As an example for anyone in the US are you happy to hand the keys of your house to someone who is descended from natives of the area? Or Australians?

Floatyboat · 05/06/2020 11:36

@1for

Well put. This argument that Palestinians are ethnically Syrian and the implication they should go live there is offensive.

To pretend that the creation of Israel has not harmed Palestinians is utterly bizarre. To feel uncomfortable with the displacement and disenfranchisenent of Palestinian people does not make you an anti Semitic Hamas supporter. Such a polarised view will never achieve peace.

And yes there are plenty worse places in the middle East than Israel. But nobody calls you Islamophobic for having misgivings about Saudi Arabia etc.

TheHighestSardine · 05/06/2020 13:20

@user1471565182

Why are you talking about Corbyn, HighestSardine? I didnt once mention him or the labour party in my comment
Hmm You need to improve your debating technique, that was absurdly transparent.
New posts on this thread. Refresh page