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Sorry, another Philip Schofield one...

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UnaCorda · 08/02/2020 20:20

I really couldn't care less about Philip Schofield's sexuality (or anyone else's) and good for him for finally being true to himself. But what makes me quite cross is all this talk of honesty and bravery, and the self-indulgent, tortured confessional in front of the nation when really it's of no importance to anyone who doesn't know him personally.

In the clip of his chat with Holly he asks repeatedly, "When is the right time?" In my opinion, the right time is before you get married to someone who believes you are straight. It's not brave, or honest, to make someone unwittingly provide you with the benefits of a heterosexual relationship, including children, so you can be viewed by the public as a "respectable family man". It's actually rather selfish.

I had a brief relationship with someone who I later discovered was gay. He didn't even have the balls to tell me directly, and it seriously screwed me up for a long time. I can't imagine what it must be like to find out your husband of 27 years is homosexual.

I'm not gay, so perhaps I am being unreasonable as I don't know what it is like to come out to friends and family (although I imagine it is easier now than it was thirty years ago) and I don't know whether PS really believed that he was in love with his wife when they got married. But I do think that leaving a duplicitous life which affects other people is not a kind or honourable thing to do and I feel very sorry for his wife and daughters who I think really have been brave.

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Henlie · 15/02/2020 12:59

I think most posters on here realised PS was just a Patron of 2Faced......it was more we were questioning why they took down their website yesterday 😐

Gibble1 · 15/02/2020 13:09

Omg this is mind boggling. I thought something fishy after fridays news as I had read this thread before Christmas but I never would have thought it was this big.
Peaches? Wow.

Sowhatywhaty · 15/02/2020 13:17

I've been thinking a lot about why I am so interested in this - it's just so weird, I do think at one point PS was a pretty genuine guy (apart from the secret gay thing - but thats not for me to judge his reasons). I remember Lorraine Kelly once saying he the nicest man ever (years ago). I also remember when HW started on TM him chastising her slightly a few times - once when she was laughing & mocking Lisa Faulkner's veggie Christmas roast thing & once when Keith Lemon was mocking FB. I also remember HW encouraging him after his first CJ appearance, he'd previously said that wasn't for him. I wonder if through his friendship with HW he became involved with the younger harder partying stars & became this narcissistic megalomaniac bully we are hearing of now.

Xanthangum · 15/02/2020 13:23

The directors were two Schofieldd both called Simon

Two Simon Schofields, both Directors? I suppose it's possible, but I'd be surprised

SisterAgatha · 15/02/2020 13:34

What’s CJ, what’s FB?

Hairydilemma · 15/02/2020 13:37

CJ/FB = Celebrity Juice/Fern Britton I think

Sowhatywhaty · 15/02/2020 13:39

@SisterAgatha ooh sorry Fern Britton & celebrity juice - don't know why I didn't just write that actually 🤔

WhiteBadger · 15/02/2020 13:39

Sowhatywhaty

Same here, I don't know why I'm so interested!

Don't watch live TV certainly don't watch daytime TV.

So why do I care??

I think it's the silence and the way it was done. Nobody wants to be lied to. And the big Coming Out last week was just ridiculous.

He could have quietly broken up with his wife and then came out as gay. No drama, just dignity.

But this this big flamboyant display of theatrical lovey drivel??

Nah, think it's annoying us plebs and we all know there is more to it!

And you've gotta love Joan Collins make PM look like he had a mouthful of wasps!

It's all the drama Mick! I just love it!

Although I do feel sorry for the daughters. :(

SisterAgatha · 15/02/2020 13:39

Oh I see. I was thinking Fiona Bruce Grin what a wally!

I agree that I don’t think Holly is particularly nice. Fearne has distanced herself. Maybe it’s because she’s such a hard drinker and Fearne is in to clean living.

SisterAgatha · 15/02/2020 13:43

I think we are all so interested because when he came out, he cast his net so widely. He was a tv presenter, his reach was contained there. After coming out he’s on every paper, twitter, instagram etc, it almost felt intrusive because I don’t give a shit if he’s gay. I myself am bi. It’s not big deal. I think it’s the gratuitous nature of it that has made it so intriguing. I feel like he included us in his business and now wants to snatch it back.

Hairydilemma · 15/02/2020 13:51

I feel like he included us in his business and now wants to snatch it back

SisterAgatha I think that’s exactly it.

“When I think I can control the narrative, I want everyone in on it, shout it from the rooftops. When I realise I can’t, I shut down all the conversation about it.”

Not really very palatable.

Inkanta · 15/02/2020 13:58

When I think I can control the narrative, I want everyone in on it, shout it from the rooftops. When I realise I can’t, I shut down all the conversation about it

Yes exactly! I hate feeling manipulated. The public were manipulated

Henlie · 15/02/2020 14:05

And now just seen that Simon Schofield (one of 2Faced Theatre Company owners has taken his personal website offline too 😐....another coincidence? I think not 🤔

hairypear1234 · 15/02/2020 14:18

the comparisons with American Beauty dude are interesting

2anddone · 15/02/2020 14:19

His Twitter is still online but not his Facebook! He retweeted PS thank you message the day he came out with a written piece about his friend!

Henlie · 15/02/2020 14:33

His main site simonschofield.co.uk has definitely been taken down......basically anywhere where comments can be left 😐

Dusty01 · 15/02/2020 14:52

The PS coming out was even on Newsnight. It was infuriating having him take up 15/20 minutes of that. There’s so many more important things happening in the world.

I don’t give a shit about PS and I don’t care who is or isn’t gay. But when it’s all shoved in my face in such a fake and manipulative way (they showed the whole cringeworthy TM pantomime on NN). I feel quite angry and want to get to the bottom of it.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 15/02/2020 14:57

Two Schofields,really?

WhiteBadger · 15/02/2020 15:24

What about this???? Notice the location!!!

Sorry, another Philip Schofield one...
Theromanempire · 15/02/2020 15:34

whitebadger ShockShock

Dusty01 · 15/02/2020 15:40

What is the significance of the location?

Gibble1 · 15/02/2020 15:47

It’s in Southwark which is where the flat is.

Henlie · 15/02/2020 15:50

PS’s London flat that is......

Dusty01 · 15/02/2020 15:51

Oh. I see. (PS’s flat?) Thank you.

Also MM would’ve been really young then. 2013.

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