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AIBU to not understand how any MPs can support Boris Johnson

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toomanyleavesonthattree · 12/06/2019 18:40

I mean he's awful. He achieved nothing of note as Mayor of London, was utterly rubbish as foreign secretary - including ensuring that British Iranian woman wasn't released by utterly failing to understand his briefing. He can't grasp or is uninterested in detail, but also has an absence of big strategic vision. And he actually seems pretty nasty.
All MPs must be able to see his original moniker of bumbling Boris has actually proved to be true when he was given proper grown ups jobs.
So why are they voting for a mess creator when the country is already in an almighty mess? If they vote for him, surely it will just confirm in people's minds even further that the Conservatives are totally incapable of governing?

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ForalltheSaints · 12/06/2019 18:45

I disagree with your assessment of him as being awful.

The word to use is probably dangerous. A Prime Minister makes decisions about where to deploy the military, and given his lack of detail this makes him wholly unsuitable.

As to why the MPs are so deluded, it is because they see votes being lost to the Brexit party, and believe he can get some of them back.

The other thing to note is his lack of basic morals and the way he treated his ex-wife.

crazyasafox · 12/06/2019 18:46

He is a bit of a clown isn't he?

He won't be PM though.

I fucken hope!

ZenNudist · 12/06/2019 18:47

They care more about preserving the party than the country. Self interest. They think the electorate are stupid enough to vote for him. Some will. Lots wont.

familycourtq · 12/06/2019 18:51

Only Tory MPs will be voting. They will vote for whoever they think will enable the Tory party to cling to power for as long as possible. That is what they care about, nothing else.

What is more inexplicable to me is how anyone could vote for any of the Tories in a general election.

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toomanyleavesonthattree · 12/06/2019 18:59

But they know he's awful. Why cling to power with an idiot in charge?

What is more inexplicable to me is how anyone could vote for any of the Tories in a general election

I find it inexplicable that anyone could vote for the current Tory or Labour party tbh. I can't believe the utter mess we are in. Two utterly dreadful main parties.

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?' Twat. Look at what you did, Dave, look at it.

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OstrichRunning · 12/06/2019 19:02

The problem is, being reasonable doesn't seem to make a shit of a difference in these weird times.

swissmilk · 12/06/2019 19:28

Trump got in. Boris has a very good chance.
The world is going to hell!

Hazlenutpie · 12/06/2019 19:34

He was very successful as Mayor of London.

John Prescott said:

Boris exceeded the low expectations of him well enough to be re-elected in 2012 and now, after two full terms, he comes to the end of his time basking in the approval of a majority of Londoners

Weirdpenguin · 12/06/2019 20:06

I have heard said that he has "personality" . It isn't a personality to be admired. He appears uncaring, self promoting and unwilling to put work in.

HollowTalk · 12/06/2019 20:07

It depends what you mean by successful, though, doesn't it?

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:19

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:19

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:20

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:20

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:21

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:22

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:22

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:22

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:23

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:23

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:23

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:23

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:23

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

janetforpresident · 12/06/2019 20:24

Anyone remember Dave saying, 'vote for chaos with Ed Milliband ro strong and stable government with me?'

If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.

ilovesooty · 12/06/2019 20:25

Because they think he can win the next election.