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AIBU to not understand how any MPs can support Boris Johnson

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toomanyleavesonthattree · 12/06/2019 18:40

I mean he's awful. He achieved nothing of note as Mayor of London, was utterly rubbish as foreign secretary - including ensuring that British Iranian woman wasn't released by utterly failing to understand his briefing. He can't grasp or is uninterested in detail, but also has an absence of big strategic vision. And he actually seems pretty nasty.
All MPs must be able to see his original moniker of bumbling Boris has actually proved to be true when he was given proper grown ups jobs.
So why are they voting for a mess creator when the country is already in an almighty mess? If they vote for him, surely it will just confirm in people's minds even further that the Conservatives are totally incapable of governing?

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Singletomingle · 16/06/2019 11:20

Well I wasnt just meaning racist comments at least 2 other candidates have used drugs. I know Sajid Javid has made some comments that would have been front page news if made by others. Then there is expenses, election fraud and extra marital affairs. I havent even had to look. Should I start on Labour politicians to and historical events?

longwayoff · 16/06/2019 11:46

Wonderbread, proles, plebs, chavs, oiks, how on earth did you come to be so familiar with his vocabulary? I would happily bet he uses all those terms and worse.

longwayoff · 16/06/2019 11:48

O sorry wonderbread, not you but single. My apologies.

Singletomingle · 16/06/2019 11:55

I only mentioned proles and was referring to earlier posters who were using the term to put down people who Boris would be popular with.

Alsohuman · 16/06/2019 12:46

Why would you start on Labour politicians? Unless Corbyn’s resigned this morning?

Gth1234 · 16/06/2019 12:59

*If only we had a time machine i bet we could get a big enough group of remainers to travel back and vote for Ed in that election. Imagine a real end to austerity, no referendum, no Theresa May, no Boris and no Brexit. I know someone will be on in a minute to bang on about the economy being fucked but the economy wouldn't be half as fucked as it will be after a no deal brexit, there would be tens of thousands of people better off, the nhs wouldn't be on its knees, schools wouldnt be falling apart and people who were disabled would be able to claim money that is rightfully theirs.

Anyway the people you are talking about are tory MPs so not people I ever expect to have any understanding of. They're from a very different world to the one I live in.*

there was no austerity to speak off. That was just an anti-conservative buzzword that worked with the hoi-polloi. Just like the "for the many, not for the few", which was a very clever sound-bite, but note that the Labour top brass still send their sprogs to fee-paying schools.

Alsohuman · 16/06/2019 13:04

No austerity to speak of - only someone living in an hermetically sealed bubble of privilege would possibly say that. Meanwhile in the real world ...

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 16/06/2019 13:19

Only positive I can see in Boris Johnson becoming PM is the we can get a new Labour leader one that will be in with a chance of winning an election

We shall soon see Boris Johnson trash Jeremy Corbyn in the commons. And then he may take the chance to call an election before he has a credible opposition and win a majority

LadyRannaldini · 16/06/2019 13:33

MPs support Corbyn, no accounting for taste.

Wonderbread · 16/06/2019 14:49

Well I wasnt just meaning racist comments at least 2 other candidates have used drugs. Then there is expenses, election fraud and extra marital affairs. I havent even had to look

Boris has scored the hat trick then with racism, homophobia AND extra marital affairs. Oh hang on it’s more than a hat trick whatever that’s called as there’s the drugs too. Oh and the electoral fraud.

Oh but Boris lol. He’s funny, yeah? Yeah?

Isitfridayalready · 16/06/2019 20:18

"but it’s not regular Conservative voters electing him. It’s the diehard members who love Johnson, have an average age of 72 and are 90% white, 70% male."

Oh, definitely. Sadly, I think we have very little chance of avoiding him in the short-term. However, in the long-term I suspect that he will be an own-goal for the Tories once they've got him, because the die-hard members massively overrate his charm and popular appeal.

(Of course, all this depends on whether Labour sort themselves out at some point...)

Wonderbread · 16/06/2019 20:50

I’m hoping for a Lib Dem resurgence!

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 16/06/2019 21:27

I wouldn’t underrate his popular appeal

Farage started Brexit but without Boris it simply wouldn’t have happened

He knows exactly how to play to an audience and to win voters over Tory MP’s know this and will end up backing him as they want to stay in power. The Tory party is split over Brexit come an election they shall pull together

CrapTVAddict · 16/06/2019 22:49

'We shall soon see Boris trash Jeremy in the commons'

Don't think so Boris gets flustered quite easily. Check out the clips of labour Mp Andrew Gwynne rattling Boris's cage on Twitter. The mask slips of his bumbling happy buffoon .
Andrew Gwynne and him have a long standing history of confrontations but Gwynne handles him like the overgrown toddler he is

Wonderbread · 16/06/2019 22:52

Yes there’s one thing that aggressive narcissistic men hate more than anything and that is someone questioning them.

There’s a billion examples with Johnson where his mask slips.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 16/06/2019 23:00

Agree Boris isn’t particularly good at debating but then he has hardly got competition with JC

He gives fantastic speeches and can easily throw others off course. Corbyn isn’t on the same level of intelligence or manipulation and Boris will go in prepared he isn’t a fool far from it he knows what he has to do to win over voters and showing up Corbyn incompetence will certainly be top of the list

Even May got the better of Corbyn and she is very awkward but strangely the more under attack she was the better she came across

Like I said before the only good outcome is that we might get a labour leader who is competent in the role, works hard as leader of the opposition and can win an election

CrapTVAddict · 16/06/2019 23:08

For anyone interested Boris Johnson vs Andrew Gwynne. Boris actually shoves Andrew in one interview Shock
https://twitter.com/skynews/status/870936443618705408?s=21

CrapTVAddict · 16/06/2019 23:11

This one really makes me laugh as Boris is fuming!
twitter.com/skynewstonight/status/870715911291813888?s=21

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 16/06/2019 23:19

I remember this from a while ago

I have always thought Boris would be PM one day. It’s no coincidence that he had been very quiet this past year or so. Sadly good political players are not always good politicians. Farage is a master political player. Both men I loath more so Boris as he will change his opinion to suit whatever gains him power and that is dangerous but I would never underestimate his appeal or his ability to win over voters (or Farage’s) this is been the downfall of the left to not take these men seriously

SeaWitchly · 17/06/2019 01:53

Even May got the better of Corbyn and she is very awkward but strangely the more under attack she was the better she came across

Are you having a laugh Enthusiasm Grin

SeaWitchly · 17/06/2019 01:56

All Jeremy Corbyn will need to do is also treat Boris like the overgrown toddler he is [a la Andrew Gwynne].
No-nonsense geography teacher versus naughty Billy Bunting Grin

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