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ohmymimi · 25/10/2018 12:14

Di Niro's restaurant in Lower Manhattan also targeted by the bomb terrorist. Apparently item delivered a couple of days ago, per MSNBC

ohmymimi · 25/10/2018 12:16

'CIA director set to brief Trump on Khashoggi as President fumes'
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/25/politics/trump-khashoggi-haspel-briefing/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 25/10/2018 12:24

De Niro business address, not restaurant:
Elizabeth Landers
@ElizLanders
@ShimonPro reports this AM: 2 law enforcement sources say authorities are examining a suspicious package that was addressed to Robert DeNiro sent to the building where his Tribeca Productions is based. The package has similar markings as the other packages from yesterday.

Lweji · 25/10/2018 12:29

at one point I saw on Twitter that a Trump family member said that the WH had also received a suspicious package yesterday, so clearly it wasn't a right-wing thing

I doubt that, but will look it up.

Lweji · 25/10/2018 12:31

Ah,
Reports of a suspicious package addressed to the White House are 'incorrect,' Secret Service says

www.cnbc.com/2018/10/24/pipe-bomb-addressed-to-the-white-house-is-intercepted-cnn.html

Lweji · 25/10/2018 12:33

I did see mention of "the writing is on the wall" - does this mean you think Trump and the GOP are finished, or that right-wing terrorism is going to win and Trump will be allowed to establish a hereditary dictatorship?

Probably not the first, and hopefully not the second, but I'd take it as the semblance of respect for the opposition is gone. They're enemies.

ohmymimi · 25/10/2018 12:37

Always lives down to our expectations.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News. It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!

Brandon Judd of the National Border Patrol Council is right when he says on @foxandfriends that the Democrat inspired laws make it tough for us to stop people at the Border. MUST BE CHANDED, but I am bringing out the military for this National Emergency. They will be stopped!

[Long and boring - he didn't read it]
The so-called experts on Trump over at the New York Times wrote a long and boring article on my cellphone usage that is so incorrect I do not have time here to correct it. I only use Government Phones, and have only one seldom used government cell phone. Story is soooo wrong!

ohmymimi · 25/10/2018 12:43

Biden bomb intercepted:
BNO News
@BNONews
BREAKING: Suspicious package sent to former Vice President Joe Biden, intercepted at a postal facility in Delaware - CBS

Gumpendorf · 25/10/2018 12:48

Bolleaux. I'm with you on not knowing what the hell is happening. But I think it was me who said the writing is on the wall. I'm wired to join the dots and from my vantage point, I'm seeing the right becoming more deceptive (Health care and voter fraud). They created the opportunity for an increasingly violent tone when they accused the Dems of the same thing over Kavanaugh.

All of this, plus the intervention of Putin, voter suppression and the tightening of the polls is upping the culture wars. So by the writing being on the wall I meant whoever wins, the landscape after 6 Nov will not be pretty, and the of a Dem House bringing regular order to Congress seems very unlikely to me.

I think someone said in a previous thread that Trump was now in the Mugabe position - he knows he is only protected from his crimes as long as he is President and has ultimate power. He will do anything to keep it that way.

I'm not sure I would believe whoever said a package had been sent to the WH. I'm sure we would have heard if that was the case. I do know there were loads of right wing commentators out on Twitter and SM yesterday saying it was a Dem ploy to take the focus from the caravan. Having said that we don't know if the bombs are political or it's someone who is trying to make us misinterpret the situation. The first segment of last night's Maddow was interesting on this. especially for those Joyce Vance fans among us

Gumpendorf · 25/10/2018 13:07

More doublethink. The worst media is the right wing press and Tv and yet Trump blames MSM.

I think the first amendment is going to come under extreme pressure if Trump prevails on 6 Nov, unless everyone becomes as sycophantic as Fox.

ohmymimi · 25/10/2018 14:26

'Top EU Court Rejects Extradition Appeal By Ukrainian Oligarch Firtash'
www.rferl.org/amp/top-eu-court-rejects-extradition-appeal-by-ukrainian-oligarch-firtash/29562112.html?__twitter_impression=true

Lweji · 25/10/2018 14:39

Interesting point of view from the BBC

The aim in Ankara is to drive a wedge between the king and his son. But the key to achieving it lies not in Riyadh, but in Washington.

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45963642

ohmymimi · 25/10/2018 15:26

Even more worrying that more than one bomb now discovered for two targets:
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
There have now been 10 packages discovered:

  • George Soros
  • Clintons
  • Obamas
  • Eric Holder
  • John Brennan
  • Maxine Waters (DC area)
  • Maxine Waters (L.A.)
  • Robert De Niro
  • Joe Biden (New Castle, DE)
  • Joe Biden (Wilmington)
Lweji · 25/10/2018 15:42

I can picture them on a get together comparing the number of bombs received.
Whoever this is really has it for Maxine Waters and Biden!
Whereas the Clintons have to share one.

In the wise words of DJT about something else:
"“They had a very bad original concept. It was carried out poorly.”

7Days · 25/10/2018 15:51

I'm boggled, really.
Bombs being sent to senior figures, in a coordinated plan?

AcrossthePond55 · 25/10/2018 15:58

I think the first amendment is going to come under extreme pressure if Trump prevails on 6 Nov, unless everyone becomes as sycophantic as Fox.

Gump if the Blue Wave doesn't happen, Scrotus et al will see that as a mandate. He and the GOP will ramp up their rhetoric and their legislative actions in a way that will make our heads spin. Scrotus' base (including Fox et al) will believe they now have absolute free rein for their ugliness and racism.

As my dear old dad would have said "Katy bar the door, we're all in for it now!".

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cozietoesie · 25/10/2018 16:08

I agree with them, Lweji. MBS would be well-advised to keep an extremely low profile over the forthcoming months.

7Days · 25/10/2018 16:08

Sorry for interrupted.
Meant to add that misspelled tweets get more coverage and consternation than that.
Do we know energetic was a sophisticated plot or Just Some Guy. A l one wolf, if you will....

Have any of the potential victims made a statement?
I just find the low key response inexplicable.

ohmymimi · 25/10/2018 16:10

Andrea Bernstein
@AndreaWNYC
In NY State Supreme Court, where we’ll find out if a judge will rule today on the NY AG move to fine and bar Donald, Don Jr , Eric and Ivanka from serving on foundation boards because of intermingling of Trump foundation, campaign, and business. Watch this space for more.

7Days · 25/10/2018 16:12

Oh so sorry for the awful typos this phone is unbearable to write on

cozietoesie · 25/10/2018 16:19

At least you haven't got a stroppy autocorrect. 

ohmymimi · 25/10/2018 17:50

No ruling from the bench on Trump Foundation case. Judge indicates decision in Summer Zervos harassment case (on suing a sitting President) may affect parts of this one. So, we wait for a written ruling with more guidance.
Andrea Bernstein
@AndreaWNYC
Trump lawyer argues it’s “refreshing” trump held a fundraiser for veterans during campaign. Judge asks if he discussed his campaign there. The lawyer says yes. The judge dips her chin. “So it wasn’t just a fundraiser”.
Judge on Don Jr, Ivanka and Eric’s failure to hold a single meeting of the board of directors of the trump foundation; “even if they are doing spectacularly good work, they are still required to follow the law” trump lawyer says “I hear you. Theres never been a case like this”
The judge says “this wasn’t used for a house in Ibiza”. The AG responds it was “improper purposes” because Corey Lewandowski chose where the money went to benefit Trump’s campaign — the foundation didn’t, as required by law
Judge, to Trump lawyer on their retort that there is political bias; “I don’t want to get involved in that. The allegations are what they are. Until you deny them, I accept them”
No ruling from the bench on Trump Foundation case. Judge indicates decision in Summer Zervos harassment case (on suing a sitting President) may affect parts of this one. So, we wait for a written ruling with more guidance.
mobile.twitter.com/AndreaWNYC/status/1055488472046280704

cozietoesie · 25/10/2018 17:53

Any idea when?

ohmymimi · 25/10/2018 17:55

Not really shocking, though:
Walter Shaub
@waltshaub
Shocking but predictable development: Newly released documents show what appears to be fairly conclusive evidence of a criminal conflict of interest violation by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, as well as what looks like a cover-up by government officials. /1
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