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Original poster

To ask why do meat eaters have such a problem with vegans?!

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CadyHeron · 23/02/2018 21:43

Ok, genuine question, and I've been around here long enough to know this is probably going to descend into a bunfight but meh Grin
Seriously. Why?! I've only recently noticed it since doing Veganuary and mainly carrying it on now even though it's finished. Up until then, I eat everything - fish,meat, cheese.....but at the same time eating lots of vegan and vegetarian food too as DH is a long time vegetarian.
(Who's gone vegan after completing Veganuary.)
Been out for dinner today.
"Surely you can have a little bit?!" (Erm, no Confused )
We've also had "but it's not healthy!" (that all depends on how you do it,surely? I know I was eating a lot healthier during Veganuary as I was conscious about what I was eating and not just mindlessly shovelling stuff in - even though I love mindlessly shoving stuff in Smile
Or you'll get a bacon sandwich shoved in your face. "You want this bacon, don't you? Don't you?"
Erm,no not really. Confused
I don't give a shit whether people eat meat, why are they so bothered that I'm vegan for a while?!
Must be exhausting to be a proper one!
not including the militant ones that tell you meat is murder as they can just go away and practise the saying each to their own...

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Chienrouge · 23/02/2018 21:44

I’m a meat eater and have absolutely no problems with vegans.

NSEA · 23/02/2018 21:45

As a meat eater I have no probably with vegans.

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CadyHeron · 23/02/2018 21:45

chien very glad to hear that there are some out there,was starting to think otherwise lol

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TheNewSchmoo · 23/02/2018 21:46

Reverse?

malificent7 · 23/02/2018 21:46

I think they feel threatened by ghe lifestyle choice..no idea why. Your not likely to eat them ate you?!

WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 23/02/2018 21:46

Well that’s a massive generalisation. Maybe it’s not the “meat eaters” but you, if you’re the common denominator.

Some people have problems with other people being sanctimonious, but that could apply to each and every side.

JassyRadlett · 23/02/2018 21:47

How do they even know you’ve gone vegan?

I wouldn’t even notice whether people’s food order included meat or dairy, tbh.

BasilTheCat · 23/02/2018 21:47

Depends how many times you have loudly exclaimed that you are VEGAN!

NancyJoan · 23/02/2018 21:48

I don’t, I couldn’t care less what other people eat and I like them to pay me the same respect.

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CadyHeron · 23/02/2018 21:48

Reverse?

No, not a reverse (never really understood reverses, they're too much like hard work to work out!)

I think they feel threatened by ghe lifestyle choice..no idea why
Yeah,does seem that way sometimes but that's such a strange way to think! I don't care what you're eating,why do you care what I am...

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MarklahMarklah · 23/02/2018 21:48

I'm veggie, have been for many years. Most people are not bothered but a long time ago I used to work with a guy who took great pleasure telling me in great detail about his previous job as a butcher.
I have meat-eating friends and vegan friends - neither antagonise the other.

goose1964 · 23/02/2018 21:49

I suspect it's because a lot of vegans are sanctimonious about it , Humans are omnivores and we can eat what we like. You want to be a vegan fine but don't tell everybody you meet

sparklewater · 23/02/2018 21:50

Ugh. Because they go on the defensive.

Most vegans only really say they are vegan if people are talking about food or diet etc

I've had people quiz me for hours about it. It's very very tiresome.

And yet we're told vegans are the ones that go on about it! Nothing worse than a preachy meat eater Hmm

FlippingFoal · 23/02/2018 21:50

I tend to find it the other way round - vegans pushing their views on me...

HotelEuphoria · 23/02/2018 21:50

jasdy sad I know, but to quote a Made in Chelsea comment;

How so you know someone's a vegan?

Because they'll tell you.

eurochick · 23/02/2018 21:50

So you've been vegan for a few weeks? It's too early to judge its long term effects.

I was veggie for years and it definitely did affect my health. I admit though I wasn't a "good veggie". I ate too many carbs and not enough protein. But I know that I feel much better as an omnivore.

However I don't care what you choose to eat. The only people who seem to care about veganism are vegans, many of whom become rather boring evangelical about it.

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CadyHeron · 23/02/2018 21:50

How do they even know you’ve gone vegan?

If say you're out for dinner and you ask for the vegan version like today. The word vegan seems to upset people and it's baffling to me!
Ooh,I could never eat that! Why? I bet you would if you hadn't heard the word vegan as it's just normal food like yours! Confused

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EveryoneTalkAboutPopMusic · 23/02/2018 21:51

I don’t think it’s just specifically vegans, I think it’s just anything different. I’m DF due to an allergy and even my DM regularly shoves milk chocolate in my face (hmm]

bigbluebus · 23/02/2018 21:51

I'm a life long meat eater and I have no problem with other people's lifestyle choices as far as food is concerned. I have friends who are vegetarians and willingly cater for them when they come for dinner. I would never try and coerce anyone into eating meat when they have said they are veggie or dairy, eggs etc of they are vegan. So YABU to suggest that 'meat eaters have a problem.

FreeNiki · 23/02/2018 21:51

I have the opposite problem. I couldn't care less what any grown adult puts in their body.

One vegan friend told me that at least with a large animal like a cow the cuts of meat feed many people but she pulled me up on my crayfish and rocket sandwich. She said many many lives had gone for my sandwich. I ignored her and she put on a baby voice just as i was about to bite into it and said please don't eat us.

I told her in no uncertain terms to get fucked and mind her own business. I would never speak to anyone like that about their food.

I am sick of pious preachy vegans and there was one thread where a vegan said they felt physically revolted at the sight of meat.

Fuck. Off.

SandyY2K · 23/02/2018 21:53

I'm a meat eater and have no problem or issue with anyone's dietary choices.

It doesn't affect me in any way whatsoever.

NewDOOFUSfor18 · 23/02/2018 21:54

I think part of the problem is that some, not all, vegans use their choice as a platform for a personal crusade. Some, not all, vegans are incredibly judgemental towards carnivores and slate the meat and dairy industries.

My Facebook feed gets bombarded with videos and self righteous rants from several of my friends who are vegan however, as I'm an adult able to make an informed choice, I scroll on and watch videos of people dancing like idiots instead.

I'm not going to get into an argument about it, I respect others choices, but that is my opinion of why meat eaters have taken a dislike (for want of a better word) to vegans.

BothersomeCrow · 23/02/2018 21:54

Sanctimonious types on both sides. Most omnivores have no problem with vegans unless the vegan starts telling everybody else they have no ethics or don't care about the planet, or forces food onto people that they swear you couldn't tell its a vegan cake/sauage/etc but actually it is both obvious and tastes horrible.

Was on a FB thread yesterday and a vegan started ranting about how meat-eaters are killing the environment, and half a dozen other vegans piled in because he was giving them a bad name.

I work with a bunch of vegans as well as veggies and omnivores and we all swap various recipes and get on fine

slashlover · 23/02/2018 21:55

I think a lot of people have previously been annoyed by the 'dead flesh' and 'corpse' type of vegetarian/vegan who try to push their ideas onto others. (I'm vegetarian btw)

Titsywoo · 23/02/2018 21:56

I don't care except I often organise dinners out for friends or with family (I'm good at organising stuff so always do it). Vegans are just a pain when finding somewhere to eat. Although that is getting much better with lots of restaurants offering options. To be fair I feel the same about any dietary requirement Grin. I accept that I am unreasonable it just gets on my nerves!