To ask why do meat eaters have such a problem with vegans?!

[CadyHeron]

Ok, genuine question, and I've been around here long enough to know this is probably going to descend into a bunfight but meh
Seriously. Why?! I've only recently noticed it since doing Veganuary and mainly carrying it on now even though it's finished. Up until then, I eat everything - fish,meat, cheese.....but at the same time eating lots of vegan and vegetarian food too as DH is a long time vegetarian.
(Who's gone vegan after completing Veganuary.)
Been out for dinner today.
"Surely you can have a little bit?!" (Erm, no )
We've also had "but it's not healthy!" (that all depends on how you do it,surely? I know I was eating a lot healthier during Veganuary as I was conscious about what I was eating and not just mindlessly shovelling stuff in - even though I love mindlessly shoving stuff in
Or you'll get a bacon sandwich shoved in your face. "You want this bacon, don't you? Don't you?"
Erm,no not really.
I don't give a shit whether people eat meat, why are they so bothered that I'm vegan for a while?!
Must be exhausting to be a proper one!
not including the militant ones that tell you meat is murder as they can just go away and practise the saying each to their own...

People who follow the less common lifestyle (veganism and religion) are more likely to talk about it and be very enthusiastic about it.

That can be the case with the militant ram it down your throat vegans though.
Vegans who don't even say a word or just go about their business and order their food happily......whyyyy make out they're being a pain or a freaky weirdo?!

FreeNiki and WhatToDoAboutThis2017 😂😂😂

Meat eater here 👋🏻Not a single problem with vegans

manicinsomniac meat eating might or might not be the default but yes meat eaters do think they are the normal ones and dont put any thought into it. Vegans dont pretend they have the average diet and they do put a lot of thought into it.

So when a meat eater is exposed to a Vegan it forces them to think about their choices and that scares them because meat eaters dont usually have answers to the the important questions that their dietary choices cause. Its easier to blame the Vegan than address why its ok for them to eat meat.

Meat eating is like a religious belief, just like gun owners in America, climate change deniers or football fans. It becomes part of their identity and is put aside from any rational introspection.
Anyone who demonstrates a different belief like Vegans are viewed as challenging their core identity and potentially exposing them as cruel/evil/immoral/wrong/stupid. Very few people have the courage to look at their core beliefs because their whole world might crumble and they potentially have to deal with living a lie.

It's people like you that give vegans a bad name.

I am a meat eater, I only eat home reared/home killed meat or meat from animals that have been ethically reared, transported and slaughtered. I am a strong believer in this but do not force this view on someone else. If I am eating at someone else's house and they serve supermarket chicken I will eat it as not do do so and the meat be thrown away would be disrespectful to the animals life. Most of my friends have no idea unless they cone for Sunday dinner and eat Steve who they had petted the week before. I would be vegan but eat home produced eggs (eggs are chicken periods in my view) but it is impossible to maintain a proper nutritional balance without supplementation. Instead I do meat free Mondays and ensure that my meat has a happy life and stress free death

FlippingFoal, on forums like this we have to talk about the typical meat eater. You are not the typical meat eater, just ask all the KFC fans ringing the police and wringing their hands because they have to go to burger king. My post was not referring to the minority of meat eaters who do think about these things.

@SD1978

I however can tell you every vegan I work with. It’s more that people seem the need to tell you, instead of just do it. Similar to same sex and heterosexual. I think when you’re in the minority instead of just getting on with your life, everyone has to be made aware of your life.

Because people just assume you are like the majority, you probably dont have to tell everybody you meet you are a meat eating heterosexual because they will already think you are, you dont have to correct them when incorrect assumptions are made about you. When people ask me where I am getting my christmas turkey from, have I tried the grand big mac or what my faveourite cheese is they are automatically pressuming I eat meat, I then need to explain I am vegan, I would be perfectly happy with just getting on with being vegan but its not possible in a world where the majority are meat eating and assume you are the same.
I am straight but people will ask me if I have a boyfriend assuming I am heterosexual, I suspect most males get the do you have a girlfriend aswell, People will just assume you are straignt and its only if you are not and in the minority situations will crop up where you have to tell people you are homosexual (or vegan) Hence why straight people dont have to come out, or meat eater dont need to tell the dinner party host they eat meat or people not alergic to nuts dont have to tell people they are not alergic to nuts.
You say you can name every vegan you work with? Surely just the ones who have told you, unless everybody else has gone out of their way to tell you they eat meat? (which would rubbish your point that only vegans feel the need to tell you what they eat rather than just doing it) or are you are just assuming they like you (the majority) eat meat? When in fact they could just be a normal vegan who hasnt had a situation where they need to correct you and tell you they are a vegan.

Another omnivore who has zero issue with vegans, vegetarians, pescatarians, etc. A family member of mine is (sometimes) vegan and I always just check before visits so I can make something they can have.

Vegan food isn’t difficult to do. In my experience anything that isn’t just a salad with bread goes down pretty well.

I'm a meat eater. I have no problem if people choose to be vegan but the two I know force it down your throat and constantly try to convert you. I even caught one talking to my 3 year old about not eating the flesh of animals.

I am a meat eater with a very dear vegan friend. No problems from me.

I really don't care what anyone else eats. I eat meat but I will happily cater for anyones dietary preferences. There are idiots on both sides of the scale.

Vegans don't bother me, vegan activists on the other hand.... I can cope with the vegan who puts stickers in the bus stops around here saying "eggs are chicken periods" (though if I met them they'd piss me off) but it's when they start calling farmers rapists and murderers it crosses a line into horrendous.

Is this you op

also like and care about animals and animal welfare whilst also appreciating the taste of them.

What a bizarre logic.

'also like and care about animals and animal welfare whilst also appreciating the taste of them.'

What a bizarre logic.

No it's not. I cry every time I do a home kill as I love my animals. I will still eat them though. They have a good life, a quick death and are appreciated

Meat eater here and absolutely no problem with vegans. One of my closest friends is veggie and we regularly eat at veggie restaurants.

The only thing I cannot abide is trying to be converted or when people try to "educate" me on the ethics of meat eating. Being treated like I'm somehow not intelligent enough to understand how the meat and dairy industry works is very annoying. I do know how it works, I still want to eat meat.

I wouldn't invite a vegan to a meal at mine because I simply couldn't be arsed to cater around them. I do like their commitment to their cause though as i think it's probably the right one but i am too busy to care enough.

I don't care what people eat until it comes across as criticising what I eat. I had to restrain myself from commenting when a vegan friend promoted Quorn on her Facebook page. Horrible processed factory floor sweepings.

I have no problem with vegans. However I find the tolerance doesn’t run the other way.

I have been on the receiving end of abuse from vegans for eating meat (never veggies, only vegans) and been reprimanded at group meals....as well as being lectured on stuff like ‘humans evolved as vegans’ and other demonstrably false woo.

How busy do you have to be to not have ime to follow a recipe? It's just as easy to cook for a vegan as a meat eater, you just have to think about it.

Meat eaters are not a hive mind. If people are badgering you about your food, they are dicks.

Some of these dicks happen vegan, or meat eaters or vegetarians. Its not what they eat that makes them a dick.

At work I had a vegan on my team. No issues. If i bought food for the team (cookies or donuts for example) i would make sure we had some vegan snacks for her. Wasnt an issue at all. For anyone.

I have a colleague who is vegan who is a pain in the arse. At a conference recently she moaned all morning about how she bet there would be no vegan food on the buffet lunch and how unfair it was. When it got to lunch time, there were loads of vegan options, all clearly marked. But she still insisted on asking the staff about everything. 'Is this vegan?' Over and over again. The staff were baffled as they just read the same sign she was. It was like she was determind that everyone must know she was vegan and wanted there to be a problem.

On another occassion, my friend asked me for help catering her daughters birthday party as one mum had said her child was vegan. We went shopping got loads of vegan food so the girl didnt feel left out. Cooked it all separately etc. No one minded. Except as the girl was leaving, she asked for a bun. My friend told her that those buns, werent vegan. The mother said 'oh its fine, she is just vegan sometimes'. My friend was really fucked off. She had spent extra money and taken extra time. She didnt mind at all. But did mind, when it transpired she was only an occasional vegan.

I am sure vegans have stories about meat eaters being dicks too. But no one group is dick free.

I think people in general get pissy with anyone criticising somebody else's choices or being plane rude by offering meat to vegxxx or vegxxx saying their diet is far superior and being all sanctimonious about it

One prick o four in a bed recently (if you watch that programme) said to people that they're eating 'decomposing flesh' ...... said 'I won't apologise, once a life force has been killed it's decomposing...' but he was clearly too fucking high up on his martyrdom throne to realise plants etc are also life forces and are also decomposing - twat!

It's that type of becaviour, from anyone's side that pisses people off

....... ps Roald Dahl's story 'The Souns Machine' ...... just saying 😇🧐😎

I wouldn't invite a vegan to a meal at mine because I simply couldn't be arsed to cater around them.

This! Mind you, I have a "vegan" niece who eats Yorkshire puddings and trifle with jelly and custard in even after the ingredients have been explained to her. She still maintains she's a vegan though (and she's 24, not going through a teen phase).

So many vegans are sanctimonious twats whose dietary needs are a big thing at any social even involving food that the rest get tarred with the same brush. A lot of them are also ignorant about the social and environmental impact of growing a lot of crops.

I live in the south downs and our landscape, flora and fauna are largely there because the land has been grazed by sheep for centuries. If everyone gave up meat, it would revert to scrub within a few years and it would be goodbye to the skylarks, rare butterflies and wild orchids. So it's roast lamb for me on Sunday, I'm doing my bit for the environment.

You don't have to "cater round them", just use a vegan recipe that everyone can eat. It's not difficult or at least no more difficult than catering for people with allergies.

Great friend Is vegan. More veggie than vegan now. We live in rural France and it just made eating out really difficult and she tends to bring stuff she can eat when we invite her.

Definitely don't hate her. A shopping trip for clothes was an education though.

So when a meat eater is exposed to a Vegan it forces them to think about their choices and that scares them

Who are you referring to there? Every meat eater in the country/world?
It most certainly doesn’t scare me when I encounter a vegan. In fact unless I’m cooking for them (I am more than happy to cater for a vegan) I wouldn’t give it a second thought. It is fairly mainstream now. I am perfectly happy with my choice (yes it’s a choice) to eat meat. Why would I be scared?

I have nothing against vegans. I probably wouldn't invite any round for a meal in a hurry as my family do eat meat/fish every day and a lot of dairy but I wouldn't dream of putting them down, etc.

I know why a lot of people have issues with vegans and it's social media. I have 2 over the top vegans on my Facebook and I've actually considered blocking them, even though I like them in other ways. They post a constant barrage of propaganda and slaughter videos, plus constant 'fact' posts to try and make non vegas feel guilty. One is especially bad and reposts a picture of pink, bloody milk (and the whole pus pus pus thing) most days. It's irritating beyond belief and makes her come across as extremely sanctimonious. It's people like that who give other vegans a bad rep.