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Freemasons feel discriminated against

88 replies

catscan · 08/02/2018 19:58

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42986319

Yet they don’t admit women and nobody knows who they are Hmm

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FunnyBird · 08/02/2018 20:01

Poor poppets.

Will nobody understand them?

Poor white, male, give-each-other-a-leg-up over anyone else poppets.

It's not fair. All these equality laws meaning they can't look after their own any more.

Fairenuff · 08/02/2018 20:02

Link doesn't work. What's the story OP?

catscan · 08/02/2018 20:05

Oh sorry - they’ve taken out ads in some national papers saying they’re misunderstood, basically

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JontyDoggle37 · 08/02/2018 20:08

There is a Freemasons organisation just for women, ,which admits only women, just like the men’s one only admits men. Any women wanting to be a Freemason can absolutely do so.

catscan · 08/02/2018 20:14

Still segregated though isn’t it Jonty, and the male order is much more powerful and connected

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TheFlis12345 · 08/02/2018 20:17

Some branches do admit women (there are probably more women masons than men in the WI) and I know several that are not white. The guy who heads our local branch is Pakistani.

Some of these posts are the perfect example of why they felt the need to set the record straight!

viques · 08/02/2018 20:18

Aw bless. I am sending them my very own secret hand gesture to show my solidarity. There you are guys, enjoy.

UnimaginativeNameChange1 · 08/02/2018 21:33

Any women wanting to be a Freemason can absolutely do so.

But how do I get in touch with them if I don't know who they are? Confused

TheFlis12345 · 08/02/2018 21:48

Our local branch aren't remotely secretive, they often organise charity events and publicise them.

minisoksmakehardwork · 08/02/2018 22:31
Onthedowns · 08/02/2018 22:40

THE few Freemasons I know are arrogant idiots who do everything for self worth not other people. Times are changing for years they have got away with things why should they continue

minisoksmakehardwork · 08/02/2018 22:43

With that statement you may as well say 'all men are arrogant idiots' because you know a few who are.

I know a Freemason who is a prize prick. He would still be a prize prick even if he wasn't a Freemason.

ScreamingValenta · 08/02/2018 22:44

I know a couple of Freemasons, and they're both pleasant, unassuming chaps. If any masons feel discriminated against, why would they not just leave?

minisoksmakehardwork · 08/02/2018 22:50

Why should they?

Should I leave MN because I find there are many, many bigoted people on here. Or should I attempt reasonable discourse to understand why a person feels that way?

If we all ignored discrimination then black people would still be segregated, women would not be allowed to own a home much less vote for the government which makes up the rules. Love would be a forbidden fruit to many.

Weezol · 08/02/2018 22:54

I don't know any Freemasons, but I assumed they were a bit like the Rotary, Lions etc.

I have read up on the roots of the Guilds and find them fascinating. We could do with revisiting the Guild ethos and organisation in our society.

ScreamingValenta · 08/02/2018 22:55

minisoksmakehardwork Very good point; I take mine back.

AmICuteOrWhat · 08/02/2018 23:26

Don't you know, it is trendy these days to be oppressed and discriminated against? We live in a society of waaah waaaah cry baby victims. Discrimination no longer just means serious things like segregation, apartheid, being denied a job, being beaten up etc it now means you are discriminated against if someone from a different race wears a hairstyle from your culture or race, or if you are denied the right to identify as a woman when you have a penis.

ladyballs · 08/02/2018 23:28

Playing a very tiny violin 🎻 for the hurt feelings of the members of an influential all male club.

TheFlis12345 · 08/02/2018 23:49

Did you not read the bit about them allowing women?!?

Belindabelle · 08/02/2018 23:52

Aw what a wee shame. Lets hope some body takes up the cause and helps the out.

minimonkey11 · 09/02/2018 00:04

Whats the actual point of the masons though? Golf clubs are where people play golf and chamber of commerce is for businesses to get together. What is the masons reason for being? I suppose i could actually just google it.

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translationAndRotation · 09/02/2018 03:32

I don't think it's ignorant. Perhaps unpleasant but far, far less unpleasant than ranking problems based on sex and race. There are words to describe people who do that, aren't there.

How about a situation where someone said "XX club feels discriminated against" and the reply was, "I don't care. It's only black women". Would you be calling out that poster or the one who called them ignorant?

SilenceIsBroken · 09/02/2018 04:37

I was referring to your use of the word "moron".

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