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...to be baffled, sad and angry that Paris Lees is speaking at the Women's March tomorrow?

212 replies

ArcheryAnnie · 20/01/2018 21:07

So, Paris Lees has been invited to address the "Time's Up" rally opposite Downing Street tomorrow, organised by the Women's March London. The "Time's Up" initiative "provides advice and support to women across all industries who have experienced sexual harassment or abuse at work."

But wait! Paris Lees is in favour of street harrassment of women, and writes articles in places like Vice, making sure lots of men know that catcalls are cool and sexy, and making sure lots of women know they have been "infantilised", and aren't nearly as brave as cool, sexy Paris, if they don't like it.

www.vice.com/sv/article/zn7b79/enjoying-catcalls-paris-lees-column

AIBU to be absolutely baffled, as well as sad and angry, that Paris Lees has been asked to speak for women at an event opposing sexual harrassment?

OP posts:
Fekko · 23/01/2018 14:04

A guess a football chant of ‘what the fuck do you know?’ with a Mexican wave is out of the question?

crunchymint · 23/01/2018 14:06
Grin
TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 23/01/2018 14:18

Could she BE any more boring?

All the articles linked to on this thread seem to add up to a massive PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ME! I’M DESPERATE AND NEEDY AND WILL DO LITERALLY ANYTHING FOR ATTENTION!

Fekko · 23/01/2018 15:48

Ahhh, what happens when they age and become the ‘invisible women’? I’m shuddering at the thought of 80 year old streakers at the Oval yelling ‘look at me!!!!!’

crunchymint · 23/01/2018 15:49

They will have lots of plastic surgery to try and look young and be noticed.

ladyballs · 23/01/2018 17:11

On the NHS, naturally. Because ageing will be so much more traumatic than for those minging cis women.

Fekko · 23/01/2018 17:14

Please - not even in jest!!

etap · 23/01/2018 17:20

Never heard of Paris Lees

Wonders if Paris Lees is trans

Googles

Ah, of course.

Fekko · 23/01/2018 17:21

Surely Paris is a boys name?

littlebillie · 23/01/2018 17:41

Actually that article sounds like a man writing an article on how they think women think it's desperate

Kikashi · 23/01/2018 17:55

Another Guardian article in praise of Paris at the Womens March www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/23/times-up-feminist-rally-trans-women-transphobia

No mention of how Paris feels empowered by catcalling and what many of us would define as sexual harassment

Liked this from the comments section:
It would be nice if more trans activists could be an ally to feminists rather than it always having to be the other way around. Maybe some empathy for why women might feel that sex based protections remain important. Instead of a constant accusation of transphobia whenever these things are discussed.

Trailedanderror · 23/01/2018 18:29

Comment is closed, there's a surprise 🤔
I was going to post and edit this:

Last summer I went to Ibiza, where I was catcalled, sexually objectified and treated like a piece of meat by men the entire week. And it was absolutely awesome.

These are Paris' own words from here:
www.vice.com/en_uk/article/zn7b79/enjoying-catcalls-paris-lees-column

What on earth is she doing addressing the march and why did you invite her?

I'd be interested to know whether she asked to speak and you felt unable to refuse, or whether someone failed to research her views. Her presence undermines the whole purpose of the event. I'd appreciate a response.

Sent to the organisers and also, no surprise, no response. Angry

I feel quite voiceless.

Fekko · 23/01/2018 18:32

Me ex sil went to a similar part of the world and was raped. It awesome.

Fekko · 23/01/2018 18:32

Crap - fat fingers - was NOT awesome.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 23/01/2018 20:46

Surely Paris is a boys name?

Is was in Shakespeare. But I think it's moved on and now it's what you call your dd to indicate that they were conceived there Grin

Paris uses it because it's Paris Sleaze innit? Geddit?

There's another TRA called Anna Lee. Anally. Geddit?

She'll probably be on the rota for next year.

Fekko · 23/01/2018 20:55

Oh oh, do we get a trans name? Like when you find your ‘porn’ name by using your first pet and street?

Or just make up something a bit ‘ooh errr missis naughty? Call me ‘Fek Hairy Bollocks’ then.

ChickenPaws · 23/01/2018 21:52

All this narcissistic whining from these tims, it’s so undignified isn’t it? I mean, all this is just so pathetic and stupid. When you see what people the world over have to put up with: poverty, violence, trafficking, being poisoned from working on toxic rubbish dumps, serious illness, homelessness, all these situations that people have to bear and go through. Then, these whingers inflicting themselves on the confused and dismayed population and eroding women’s hard fought for rights and contributing nothing but violence and hostility. Going on about lipstick, high heels and getting into lesbians panties. Ffs.

I wonder what their families think of them leaving violent and disgusting words and pictures on the internet. What a legacy. What a thing to be proud of eh?

No dignity or self respect.

CAAKE · 23/01/2018 22:42

Yes @ChickenPaws, they are revoltingly entitled. Twisting words and manipulating, feigning oppression at every turn.

thebewilderness · 23/01/2018 22:42

I am not really surprised that trans identified males enjoy public displays of male dominance no matter which side of them they are on. After all, trans identified males are the ultimate public display of male dominance.

Battleax · 23/01/2018 22:47

Sorry, wrong place Blush

littlebillie · 24/01/2018 06:49

Certain I just read your post and felt slightly sick.

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CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 24/01/2018 20:08

Or just make up something a bit ‘ooh errr missis naughty? Call me ‘Fek Hairy Bollocks’ then.

What did you call yourself to get deleted then?

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