To believe “wind the bobbin up” is inappropriate and to ask my child’s Nursery not to sing it.

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Wind the bobbin up originated in the cotton mill towns of the north of England in Victorian times. As anyone who knows a bit about a bit history can tell you, the cotton mills were horrendous places which horrifically exploited women and children, forcing them to do dangerous work in appalling conditions for little pay.

How can it be right to trivialise these horrors by getting children to sing a light-hearted ditty about it... It’s offensive to the memory of all those who suffered these horrendous conditions and experienced serious injury or even death as a result of hideously exploitative working practices.

Oh god it's going to be stuck going round and round in my head for weeks now, thanks OP

Go and look at the origins of classic Disney movies....

I'm doing the motions right now......

It should be banned because it does my head in!

Not because my great great grandmother had her scalp ripped off when she got her hair caught in a wool spinning machine when she was a child and worked darting under the machines to fix broken threads.

You could always try the dinosaur version...

they should sing ring a ring of roses.

Of course not.... it trivialises appalling suffering and death. In the same way as saying “I’m not your slave” if your child expects you to run after you trivialises the real suffering of slavery.

I sing most of these songs in their sleep. Dd is almost 18 and is offended that head, shoulders, knees and toes points to her chin as she hates it x

One school had a serious complaint about hand gestures to Twinkle Twinkle because the children were, for 'diamond', making the sign language shape for 'vagina'!

Totally BU for all the aforementioned reasons...

I don’t understand. What insufficiently lighthearted thread about slavery is this a reference to?

- jack and Jill is about 2 children being killed after all
I thought it was about the beheading of king Louis XVl and Marie Antoinette.

Is it 'Point to the floor or Point to the door'?

Is there any nursery rhyme or fairy story that isn’t offensive based on the strict criteria that historical events that caused great suffering can only be referred or alluded to in serious and factual manner.... now there’s a challenge!

seriously?

I think we should ban Humpty Dumpty personally. It advocates a poor use of the army's time and resources. Sending all the king's horses and all the king's men to mend an egg with delusions of being human? Madness.

beezie - Who on earth's vagiona is shaped like that?

Are you the lady that wanted sleeping beauty banned??

Vagina even!

Wind it up again

oh dear i see you meant 'sign language sign'. Methinks its near my bedtime now.

Beeziekn33ze - I worked in a nursery and got into trouble for making that sign- I never realised!

Humpty Dumpty would call Claims Direct these days and sue the council for the dodgy wall.

Someone remind me about Oranges and Lemons?!?!? Doesnt that have a line about Off with your head? Chop chop your head or something? Im having memories off that at preschool!

OP have a look at the labels in your clothes, are you 100% they were not made by modern slavery?

No no. Humpty IDENTIFIED as an egg. Really, he was a cantaloupe.

And Baa baa rainbow sheep? Really?

What insufficiently lighthearted thread about slavery is this a reference to?

A thread about whether to complain about a teacher who said “you’re not in a concentration camp” to put their whinging in context. Slavery comments were included in this.