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To believe “wind the bobbin up” is inappropriate and to ask my child’s Nursery not to sing it.

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coconuttella · 20/01/2018 20:35

Wind the bobbin up originated in the cotton mill towns of the north of England in Victorian times. As anyone who knows a bit about a bit history can tell you, the cotton mills were horrendous places which horrifically exploited women and children, forcing them to do dangerous work in appalling conditions for little pay.

How can it be right to trivialise these horrors by getting children to sing a light-hearted ditty about it... It’s offensive to the memory of all those who suffered these horrendous conditions and experienced serious injury or even death as a result of hideously exploitative working practices.

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NorthernLurker · 20/01/2018 20:49

I thought Lucy Locket and Kitty Fisher was about mistresses of one of the Stuart's? James II? Charles II?

RobinHumphries · 20/01/2018 20:49

Rock a bye baby was about the Kenny family who lived in Ambergate Derbyshire.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 20/01/2018 20:49

I advocate firing squad for use of the the phrase snowflake when describing an alleged ideological stance

DriggleDraggle · 20/01/2018 20:49

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ArbitraryName · 20/01/2018 20:49

The whole ring a ring o’ roses being about the plague thing is almost certainly apocryphal.

deadringer · 20/01/2018 20:49
Hmm
Curlyshabtree · 20/01/2018 20:49

Points to the door......

DriggleDraggle · 20/01/2018 20:50

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LipstickHandbagCoffee · 20/01/2018 20:50

Ah and there I was hoping you’d get a flash mob going to the nursery

Curlyshabtree · 20/01/2018 20:50

Move down south, I never heard it until I moved up north..

reup · 20/01/2018 20:51

Ring a ring of roses is not about the plague

www.snopes.com/language/literary/rosie.asp

coconuttella · 20/01/2018 20:51

And anyone who says it’s different is playing a distasteful game of atrocity top trumps!

Sorry, not clear.... the “it’s” refers to slavery and concentration camps.

Ps I’m not from the DM... I hate the paper and what it stands for!

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TenancyTroublesAgain · 20/01/2018 20:51

Christ, is there anything that someone is NOT offended by these past couple of years?

SumThucker · 20/01/2018 20:52

Thank frig OP, wouldn't have been surprised on here though...

DontbeaDickaboutit · 20/01/2018 20:52

🙈 Fucking Hell

ArbitraryName · 20/01/2018 20:52

Thing is, given the sort of stuff we see on MN every day, there is no reason to assume that the OP is anything other than serious.

Lindy2 · 20/01/2018 20:52

Or it might just be a song about a nice little old lady sitting at home enjoying a bit of sewing. ☺

If you get rid of the gore you wipe out most of our nursery rhymes and fairy tails I'm afraid. Generation after generation has survived the horror of a nursery rhyme sing song and done ok so I don't think it's too bad really.

Do you have a problem with these too?
Ring o ring of roses - plague
3 blind mice - mouse abuse
Ding doing bell, pussy's in the well - nastiness to pussy cats
Humpty dumpy - egg murder

It's probably best not to even get started on stories like Red Riding Hood and Hansel and Gretel.
😂

dontbesillyhenry · 20/01/2018 20:53

My two year old DS sings wind the gobby up

chickenowner · 20/01/2018 20:54
Grin
reup · 20/01/2018 20:54

This is interesting about humpty dumpty

www.dictionary.com/e/hidden-nursery-rhymes/

SlackerMum1 · 20/01/2018 20:54

But Driggle it’s ok because jack and Jill we’re just getting their comeuppance for going up the hill to indulge in a little extra marital business.... so head injuries entirely justified!

Mookatron · 20/01/2018 20:54

Since I didn't see the thread you're talking about I wouldn't know if it's the same or not. I'm guessing it's not as simple as that though as if it were you would've just posted there.

coconuttella · 20/01/2018 20:54

what nursery rhymes would you prefer?

Exactly.... None. Each and every one could be offensive based on some of the views on here. Even Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep is steeped in the patriarchal order... the master getting the first pick of the wool!

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Weebo · 20/01/2018 20:54

Did you hear a whoosh as the sarcasm from that post flew over your head, Nanny? :o

coconuttella · 20/01/2018 20:56

Thing is, given the sort of stuff we see on MN every day, there is no reason to assume that the OP is anything other than serious.

Exactly.... depressing isn’t it.

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