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To believe “wind the bobbin up” is inappropriate and to ask my child’s Nursery not to sing it.

534 replies

coconuttella · 20/01/2018 20:35

Wind the bobbin up originated in the cotton mill towns of the north of England in Victorian times. As anyone who knows a bit about a bit history can tell you, the cotton mills were horrendous places which horrifically exploited women and children, forcing them to do dangerous work in appalling conditions for little pay.

How can it be right to trivialise these horrors by getting children to sing a light-hearted ditty about it... It’s offensive to the memory of all those who suffered these horrendous conditions and experienced serious injury or even death as a result of hideously exploitative working practices.

OP posts:
PickAChew · 20/01/2018 21:10

Goosey goosey gander is an evil bastard, persecuting elderly atheists.

As for wee willy winky, that perve should have been locked up.

duckdarlington · 20/01/2018 21:10

This post cant be real, There cant honestly be people so pathetic and easily offended functioning in everyday life! If you are serious OP, please get yourself sorted for the sake of your child, the world cant cope with more of you.

Amoregentlemanlikemanner · 20/01/2018 21:10

Oh I see. Thanks.

PeaceandQuiete · 20/01/2018 21:11

Oranges and Lemons is about loans that can't be repaid going into thousands. Heads being chopped off...it can't be good for the little ones.

londonrach · 20/01/2018 21:13

Have you not read the grimmes brother stories and dont get me on the rock the cradle rhyme... you over thinking this...

ArcheryAnnie · 20/01/2018 21:14

This is a brilliant thread and I am delighted to have clicked on it. I'm now going through my mental rolodex to try and think of a nursery rhyme that isn't probably terrible.

The one that always made me laugh was in a book illustrated by that one that did Maisy, and went:

Grandfa' Grigg
Had a pig
In a field of clover.
Piggy died,
Granfa' cried
And all the fun was over.

I'm awful for laughing (and I did have a grandfather that kept a pig, and it would indeed have been a disaster for the family if the pig had died before getting up to slaughter-weight) but I laugh nonetheless.

Put your hands upon your knee. See how quiet you can be.

PeaceandQuiete · 20/01/2018 21:15

Rock a bye baby on the tree top.

SusanBunch · 20/01/2018 21:16

Good one OP. Some of the pearl-clutchers on that thread were so annoying.

I think I once likened our uni accommodation to a prison cell. I should be locked up (which again is #triggering and makes fun of experiences of inmates). Disgusting to belittle the suffering of prisoners around the world when I am free to come and go as I please. I need to check my privilege and educate myself.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/01/2018 21:17

Get a grip op! Ban all nursery Rhymes then, as most of them have some sort of story behind them.

ShortandAnnoying · 20/01/2018 21:18

So this is why taat are banned.

Bluedoglead · 20/01/2018 21:19

What? I’m confused.

Linnet · 20/01/2018 21:19

peaceandquiete it’s point to the ceiling, point to the floor, point to the window, point to the door.

LittleLights · 20/01/2018 21:19

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Trashboat · 20/01/2018 21:20

Georgie Porgie was a dirty bastard too. Not waiting for consent.

LifeLaundry · 20/01/2018 21:20

My daughter insisted it was Wind The Coconut when she started preschool. I’d never heard it before so didnt know.

Amoregentlemanlikemanner · 20/01/2018 21:20

Could you link to other thread please?

sparklepops123 · 20/01/2018 21:20

Born and bred Yorkshire ,go and have a chat with yourself , nobody else cares

ButchyRestingFace · 20/01/2018 21:21

My English Lit lecturer at uni knew a different version of Ba Ba Black Sheep.

It went like this

🎶 Ba ba black sheep
Have you any wool?
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Three bags full.
One for the master
and one for the master.
And one for the fucking church. 🎶

woodhill · 20/01/2018 21:22

Is this a joke

AlpacaLypse · 20/01/2018 21:23

I see we have the usual number of epic fails on reading the whole thread, or even just the OP updates, from the terminally trigger happy posters.

I find the back story for nursery rhymes and fairy tales fascinating. Dear lord some of them are truly horrible aren't they!

FlippingFoal · 20/01/2018 21:24

Oh the irony - I read this thread after winding my bobbin up ready to use my sewing machine. Oh dear I now feel all repressed. And I'm Northern lol

woodhill · 20/01/2018 21:24

I think some of the lyrics to pop songs can be worse

feelslikearockandahardplace · 20/01/2018 21:25

Ffs

Motoko · 20/01/2018 21:26

Does anyone remember the game that went with Oranges and Lemons?
You'd have two people standing opposite each other, forming an arch with their joined hands. The rest would stand in a queue and take turns to run under the arch, while the rhyme was being recited. When it got to the bit that goes,
Here comes a candle to light you to bed
Here comes the chopper to chop off your head
Chop
Chop,
CHOP!
on the last "Chop", the arch would come down and 'chop' the person who was under the arch at that moment.

I used to love that! Hoping that you wouldn't be the unfortunate one who got the chop was very exciting to a five year old.

IamPickleRick · 20/01/2018 21:26

Oranges and Lemons was brilliant! At Brownies we had a dance where two girls would put our arms together to make a guillotine and the others would run through until the final CHOP when the person caught underneath would get grabbed by the shoulders and clamped down on! Ah such fun Confused

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