We're not on a 17 day vacation, not us. We have meetings and calls! Now where did that golf ball go?...Trump cont.

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From that Guardian article:

"I find the fact that they presumably spent taxpayer money to undertake such a hyper-partisan and unprofessional effort extremely troubling,” John Sipher, a former senior CIA officer said in an emailed comment. “There are normal ways to do this through our existing institutions, and their relationships with our British partners. This is bad on many levels."

"Republicans that are part of the House investigation should not be undertaking efforts without informing their Democratic colleagues," Sipher added. “Not only is it unprofessional but it is impolite. Mr Steele was a professional who worked on important and compatible issues with the US. He deserves better than being ambushed by a bunch of hacks."

It's quite scary.

It is and it's why the investigation needs to go beyond Trump and his associates. From all accounts, Pence and Ryan and others have been as involved in the collusion, money laundering, cover up etc.

The irony will be if the Washington swamp brings down Trump because of his past misdemeanours and allows the 'establishment' to walk away. That would be the worst of all worlds. Frying pan and fire come to mind.

Thanks, I've read the article now. So really significant and yet another example of inappropriate behaviour by the Republicans on that committee?

Even Scientific American is worried about who holds the nuclear codes.

www.scientificamerican.com/article/no-one-should-have-sole-authority-to-launch-a-nuclear-attack/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sa-editorial-social&utm_content=link-post&utm_term=policy_opinion_text_free&sf103918489=1#

I didn't know this, from oybbk's link:

The vast influence of the Kochs’ “dark money” has been documented in Jane Mayer’s 2016 book of the same name. It funds, among other things, nearly 300 academic courses at colleges and universities, where the syllabus is dictated by the right: students learn that Keynes is bad, sweatshops are good and climate change is a myth.

North Korea vows to 'make the US pay dearly' as sanctions tighten

edition.cnn.com/2017/08/06/asia/north-korea-asean/index.html

Fuck.

I hope it's just posturing.

"Some analysts have expressed doubt, however, that sanctions can stop the North Korean missile and nuclear programs" - I agree

www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/betsy-devos-trumps-big-donor-education-secretary

From the same author Pain. DeVos now delivering Koch agenda.

I think we need another whiteboard to keep track of all these links.

'Keynes is bad'? They're not talking about my hero, are they?

I think someone called trump CFP and so perhaps in honour of that we should start a trello board!

lweji that is terrifying. I don't know how this will pan out but getting everybody to agree on these sanctions has been a feat, even if I'm not exactly sure how much credit can be attributed to trump.

This would be nerve wracking at the best of times, and that's without a toddler being in charge of the America.

I don't think Trump should get any credit on NK sanctions at all.

I think someone called trump CFP

That would be me.

It needs to be a yuge trello board.

Lweji

www.politico.com/story/2017/08/08/trump-obama-north-korea-241389

Trump’s North Korea strategy: A lot like Obama’s

Despite warning that U.S. patience with Kim Jong Un 'is over,' the president is so far relying on sanctions and diplomatic pressure to try to curb North Korea’s nuclear ambitions.

Because there's nothing else that can be done. No one is going to invade NK.
The time has passed and it would be a nightmare anyway.
At this point we'll just have to accept that they are going to be a rogue state with nuclear weapons.

Just popping in to wave hello, I used to be an Archers theme tune but got bored with the old name and have been childishly having fun with this Ouais Mais Bon
Also to ask what CFP means (excuse my ignorance) and to say that will not be happy until am sure the beloved daughter is on her plane safely out of Seoul early tomorrow morning..

Oh, hope all is ok Ouais with her DD.

I can take over the worrying then as mine goes to Seoul in about 6 weeks

*with YOUR DD I meant.

CFP is for cheeky fucker president.

Borrowed from the cheeky fucker neighbour threads.

You'll have to excuse my pessimism, Lweji.

Roussette, thank you, she's loved being in Seoul (apart from the group of people she was with but that's just bad luck) and is presently just near the airport, due to leave in about 5 hours. She tells me the only worry they have had whilst there was the possibility of a tornado (or typhoon? Tsunami? Weather thing beginning with t, anyway! Sorry ). I hope all goes well for your DD - how long will she be there for?
Ah, thank you, Lweji. Did wonder if the C stood for Cheeto.
I can't really keep up here as I am thoroughly mystified by most of it. Mainly that there are still Americans who believe Trump is MAGA.

At this point, I don't think being in SK is any more dangerous than in China, Japan or the US. KJU seems to have long range missiles.

Yep, Lweji, my brain agrees but my emotions don't

FOX & friends
FOX & friends @foxandfriends
U.S. spy satellites detect North Korea moving anti-ship cruise missiles to patrol boat

Jennifer Jacobs @JenniferJJacobs
Asked on Fox about spy satellite report on N Korea (which Trump retweeted), Nikki Haley said can't talk on anything classified, bashed leaks

Jake Sherman @JakeSherman
yet the president of the United States retweeted this Fox and Friends tweet

[president can choose to unclassify information, even if it's just by tweeting about it]

www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/claudiakoerner/how-a-pro-trump-twitter-scheme-fell-apart-after-a-retweet

How A Pro-Trump Twitter Scheme Fell Apart After A Retweet From The President

what strange times we're living in, where the president's incompetence is saving America from his incompetence!