Is this just real life? Is this just fantasy? ScaraMooch, keep your hands away from me. Trump continued

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Because the last thread filled up REALLY quickly.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2986638-Seans-gone-Its-sad-Great-guy-Going-to-miss-him-Trump-continued?

Re. Seth Rich
I have been following the Trump Saga since just before the election. I have watched a lot of USA news/comment TV and read many articles and NEVER came across Seth Rich

Lweji.

That's an impressive list. Like an eight year old's New Year's Resolutions.

I know he's gone but here's Anthony Scaramucci's first interview post firing. It's in the Huffington Post.
www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anthony-scaramucci-what-went-wrong_us_59811cc9e4b02b36343ec1da

Seems he was freaking out about a woman and affair rumours.

I had only heard about Seth Rich because of Fox's later coverage of his death.

It really is quite sickening what Fox and 'friends' did, if reports are to be believed.

To be fair, even before the law suit story, the whole conspiracy Sean Hannity was pushing was disgusting. To say the least.

They will grab any conspiracy they can. Never mind facts.

I heard of Seth Rich from the Trump amplifiers on social media. I think it must have been the Trumpettes on MN or comments below news articles.

I've just searched MN, and it brings up hits like this thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/a2715932-To-think-the-USA-has-to-choose-between-two-awful-candidates, where someone is clearly replying to shadowcat60 having mentioned Rich. shadowcat60 has now been universally deleted, as far as I can tell.

Most of the refs I saw were of the type, "Why aren't Dems/liberals/progressives talking about the murder of Seth Rich? It's a cover-up by mainstream media and you're all hypocrites for not caring when it's the Dems who murder someone."

It will still come up from the bots and Trumpers.
Law suits, prosecutions, official condemnations change nothing since everything is dismissed as fake news and deep state conspiracy.
Cultish.

Oh, I forgot one: 'It was just a joke'.

amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/02/rex-tillerson-more-questions-than-answers-in-us-china-relationship

Open conflict with china? What would that look like?

Can you guess who said this?

We have a stock market that, frankly, has been good to me, but I still hate to see what’s happening. We have a stock market that is so bloated.”
— Presidential announcement speech, June 16, 2015

“She’s [Fed Chairwoman Janet Yellen] keeping the economy going, barely. The reason they’re keeping the interest rate down is Obama doesn’t want to have a recession-slash-depression during his administration.”
— Interview with The Hill newspaper, Oct. 14, 2015

“You have a situation where you have an inflated stock market. It started to deflate, but then it went back up again. Usually that’s a bad sign. That’s a sign of things to come. And yeah, I think we’re sitting on a very, very big bubble.”
— Interview with Bob Woodward and Robert Costa of The Washington Post, April 2, 2016

“If rates go up, you’re going to see something that’s not pretty. It’s all a big bubble.”
— Fox News interview, Aug. 9, 2016

Contrast with this:

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-tillerson-idUSKBN1AH55C

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told reporters that he and Trump did not believe the new sanctions would "be helpful to our efforts" on diplomacy with Russia.

"The action by the Congress to put these sanctions in place and the way they did, neither the President nor I were very happy about that," Tillerson said. "We were clear that we didn't think it was going to be helpful to our efforts, but that's the decision they made, they made it in a very overwhelming way. I think the president accepts that."

Tillerson stopped short of saying definitively that Trump would sign the sanctions, saying only that "all indications are he will sign that bill."

So what happens when trump does the unimaginable and vetoes a bill that's been approved of by all but two members of congress? He's had it for days now but no signs of it being signed any time soon.

Actually, as I typed that, I realised that that's not strictly true - huckabee sanders said so, tillerson said so, pence so, the GOP have said so but unfortunately they're not reliable indicators so until it happens, I remain sceptical.

Pain

Open conflict with China? If it were restricted 'only' to 'economic conflict' it would not be good. Anything more is unthinkably bad.

Sorry. would be

Scaramucci sounds even more like a charmer in that HuffPo article.

Seems he was freaking out about a woman and affair rumours.

So, divorce maybe not so much over his "ambition"?

Seems so Lweji.

I think having read the article the replies to the fake Reince make a lot more sense.

He is utterly abhorrent but strangely interesting. I don't suppose we often get to see openly how dreadful these people really are. Normally it's just snippets.

Set What do you mean by the replies to the fake Reince make a lot more sense?
Please, forgive my ignorance, I was away.

A scammer sent fake emails to a number of members of the Trump admin. I'll try and find a link Elena as it's very funny and worth a read!

Here's a CNN piece

email prankster

edition.cnn.com/2017/07/31/politics/white-house-officials-tricked-by-email-prankster/index.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/01/prankster-says-he-targeted-scaramucci-over-mental-health-insult

One to watch and one to read. It's really hilarious and worrying in equal measure.

Thank you.

Peter Daou @peterdaou

1. THREAD. Impossible to fully appreciate America's political crisis until you realize the right inhabits a fabricated information universe.

1. The American right inhabits a fabricated information universe, EXHIBIT A:

Jon Passantino
Jon Passantino @passantino
Trump has launched a “REAL news” program on his Facebook, hosted by his daughter-in-law

Team Trump has taken decades of rightwing media to a logical conclusion: Fabricate an entirely different reality and claim it's "real."

1. EXHIBIT B:

[photo 1]

1. EXHIBIT C:

New Day
New Day @NewDay
.@BrianStelter: lawsuit alleging Fox News created fake story with WH oversight "almost like a media literacy" lesson t.co/a7wRvgaSLS?amp=1

1. EXHIBIT E:

Richard W.
Richard W. @IceManNYR
Conway just called Trump "the most active president in recent history".
She wasn't talking about golf. #AlternativeFacts

[photo 2]

1. EXHIBIT F:

Yahoo News
Yahoo News @YahooNews
Kellyanne Conway explains what she meant by ‘alternative facts’ yhoo.it/2tBQScB

1. EXHIBIT G:

Grant Stern
Grant Stern @grantstern
Trump TV is here, it uses mainstream local newscasts to spread propaganda via @thegopwatchdog #TheResistance

t.co/NZ1NEO50dt?amp=1

1. EXHIBIT H:

Jonah Navarre
Jonah Navarre @JonahNavarre
When it comes to spreading fake news, Trump is a master
amp.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article164886792.html

10. EXHIBIT I:

Dieri
Dieri @dieri
Fascinating how Fox News chooses to keep its viewers in an alternate reality.

mobile.twitter.com/daveweigel/status/892535931240157184

11. EXHIBIT J:

Chris Stanley
Chris Stanley @chrisinfdl
@FoxNews viewers have no clue what is actually transpiring in the Trump White House. It's an alternate reality over there.

mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/892210839486427136

12. EXHIBIT K:

ABC News
ABC News @ABC
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer: Inauguration photos were "intentionally framed...to minimize" crowd size t.co/qWSwmRBG2K?amp=1

13. EXHIBIT L:

Abbey Shockley
Abbey Shockley @AbbeyShockley
Trump saying there is "no chaos" in the WH is kind of like when I tell my parents I'm "doing great" during finals week.

14. EXHIBIT M:

SheGotFerocious
SheGotFerocious @SheGotFerocious
Just. Wow. But #climatechange is a hoax, right? #alternativefacts, let me introduce you to #Science :

The New York Times
The New York Times @nytimes
It's not your imagination. Summers are getting hotter.
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/28/climate/more-frequent-extreme-summer-heat.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

ADDENDUM 1: The pervasive "liberal media" myth is a deliberate strategy to delegitimize news sources that contradict the right's worldview.

ADDENDUM 2: Note Team Trump's overuse of "fake news." That's another tool to undermine any facts that don't fit their fabricated reality.

ADDENDUM 3: Russia expertly manipulated this alternative information universe, targeting not just the right, but the anti-Hillary left.

I was only joking my dear defense.

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/scaramucci-claims-he-was-joking-in-tirade-about-wh-staff.html?utm_campaign=nym&utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s1

Ho hum.

www.politico.com/story/2017/08/02/tillerson-isis-russia-propaganda-241218

That's terrible lionheart. It's so obvious that he's declawing the state department but what can be done?

He's obviously not operating on a basis of looking out for the US but why is that? I know he was awRded an order of friendship by Putin awhile ago so is he embroiled with Russia or is he blindly following trump's orders? I get the impression he's a reluctant player in this so I'm less inclined towards the second option but any thoughts welcomed!

Olga_Lautman NYC ✨‏ @olgaNYC1211

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Never ceases to amaze me that when it comes to 🇷🇺 meets/calls with the US the information is learned from Int'l outlets not our @StateDept