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100 days in - congrats to us all for keeping sane on the Trump train

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TheClaws · 01/05/2017 11:44

The Trump thread continued. We are all LEGENDS!

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/05/2017 17:26

I consider myself a Christian, and the 'Religious Freedom' EO scares the shit out of me.

Religious freedom as enshrined in the Constitution means that the Govt cannot force us to join a particular religion, favour a particular religion, nor penalize any one for not belonging to a particular religion.

Separation of church and state is part of that; that any particular region is not supposed to become 'powerful' enough to influence governmental policy.

This EO appears to violate both of those principals. It will allow someone to penalize me for not belonging to their religion or 'behaving' as they believe I should and it will allow a church with money to influence policy by directly pushing their particular agenda. It's one thing for a church to say 'these are our values', quite another to say 'vote for, and give your money to XXX cause'.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/05/2017 17:29

Bradd Jaffy @BraddJaffy
Meantime, while you're watching health care...

Ken Thomas @KThomasDC
WASHINGTON (AP) _ House panel approves bill to undo much of Dodd-Frank law enacted after financial crisis.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/05/2017 17:31

The Associated Press @AP
President Trump says first foreign trip as president will include stops in Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Vatican.
t.co/xWntN9FnCB?amp=1

Roussette · 04/05/2017 17:33

Fascinating to watch, so different from Parliament. Everyone seems to be on 1 minute or 1min30 to speak. Unlike our MPs who drone on and on and on

At the moment it must be Dems speaking. It's all about how many in their State will now not be covered. 800,000 says one. And a lot of talk of breast cancer, and other pre existing conditions that will now not be covered in any shape or form.

Someone asking why those in the WH are exempt from this... if it's so good, why?

cozietoesie · 04/05/2017 17:40

Zombie Trumpcare

GingerIvy · 04/05/2017 17:53

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Big speech in Israel by @realDonaldTrump will be delivered at the ancient fortress Masada, reports @Channel2News

GingerIvy · 04/05/2017 18:03

Caroline O.‏ @RVAwonk Mar 16
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First, let's talk about how #Trumpcare would be absolutely devastating for people with autism & other developmental disabilities. 1/

Medicaid is is the single-largest health payer for people w/autism. Their care is now at risk if GOP repeals #ACA's Medicaid expansion. 2/ pic.twitter.com/hpcufuaUN4

Making Medicaid a block grant program will cut states' funding for services & let them opt out of covering critical services for autism. 3/ pic.twitter.com/oIdasjcede

Those 10 essential benefits that the GOP wants to eliminate? They include crucial mental, behavioral, & rehabilitative therapies. 4/ pic.twitter.com/n0biX7sBEz

Eliminating these "would severely limit the availability of services to children w/ autism or other disabilities" 5/
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#ACA expanded the scope of the Mental Health Parity Act, which improved access to autism-specific services. This is now in jeopardy. 6/ pic.twitter.com/fu09ax2lIS

You know how the GOP keeps talking abt "opening up the insurance market across state lines"? Well let's talk abt what that really means. 7/ pic.twitter.com/OG2Jf4WUQW

Background: State autism-coverage mandates have increased the # of children receiving coverage for autism care. 8/
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GOP plan to 'open up the interstate market' = a “race to the bottom” in which states would repeal these mandates. 9/
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States would be boxed into repealing these mandates to make in-state insurance purchases more price competitive. 10/
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i.e., competitiveness on the insurance market is achieved by repealing consumer protections & coverage mandates. 11/
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The result? "Gains achieved to date in access to autism-specific services could be reversed." 12/
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But the threat to autism care is not limited to the impact of #ACA repeal. School-based autism services (via IDEA) are also at risk. 13/ pic.twitter.com/MzVnSpxdLi

Betsy DeVos doesn't even know what IDEA is. Jeff Sessions calls it an "irritating problem for teachers." 14/
twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/842337339854733312

The #trumpbudget proposal calls for a 14% cut to the Dept. of Education. Here's what that could look like for children w/disabilities. 15/ pic.twitter.com/JS3ADyGwP8

Link to article ("Trump’s budget fails to put America’s children first"): thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/education/324128-trumps-budget-fails-to-put-americas-children-first
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On top of this: DeVos' plan for school vouchers would let schools skirt protections for children w/disabilities. 16/ www.americanprogress.org/issues/education/reports/2017/02/02/298010/betsy-devos-threat-to-children-with-disabilities/ … pic.twitter.com/ngedyvPzgu

On top of that: Betsy DeVos has not divested from her holdings in Neurocore. Will her decisions be evidence-based? Or profit-based? 17/ pic.twitter.com/kvtkM7WJpY

NEJM warns: DeVos "could have a financial incentive to shift education ... away from evidence-based practices" 18/
twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/842342546906976257

Our nation's most vulnerable children (& adults) are under siege right now. It's our responsibility to make sure their voices are heard. -X-

Also: If Medicaid is block-granted, children & adults w/disabilities are likely to lose access to in-home care. www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2017/01/12/donald-trump-is-waging-a-war-against-autistic-people/2/#422a914f6381 … pic.twitter.com/5mvpUcNnT3

So instead of receiving care at home with their families, they will be sent to institutions.
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"If Donald Trump has his way, autistic people will lose healthcare & coverage & access to treatment & therapies, and some of them will die." pic.twitter.com/mFRcqwjq7g

GingerIvy · 04/05/2017 18:11

Reuters Top News‏Verified account @Reuters 38m38 minutes ago
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UPDATE: ACLU says it will file lawsuit challenging Trump executive order on religion

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/05/2017 18:20

Seth Abramson @SethAbramson
BREAKING: Dutch TV broadcasts program accusing Trump of association with criminal conspiracy, Trump refuses comment: t.co/QUiT112q10?amp=1

zembla.vara.nl/dossier/uitzen… for more details on the Dutch public TV documentary "The Dubious Friends of Donald Trump: The Russians."

(3) Trump has lied repeatedly under oath about how well he knows Sater. These are far worse deposition lies than Bill Clinton ever told.

(4) Trump saying under oath he couldn't pick Sater out of a lineup could be multiple crimes: perjury and conspiracy to commit fraud.

(5) LISTEN, #Russiagate watchers: watch this Dutch TV documentary (see this thread) and it WILL deliver. It will NOT disappoint. It is HUGE.

(6) Among much else, we learn from Dutch TV that Trump's closest business partners throw hotel parties with prostitutes...ringing any bells?

(7) Recall Steele's dossier only alleges a hotel party at the Ritz Moscow that prostitutes attended—not Trump sleeping with prostitutes

(8) Recall too we know from the "Miss Hungary" story in European media that Trump, generally speaking, lied about his conduct at the Ritz.

(9) Recall too the CIA told Paul Wood (BBC) Putin has multiple compromising videotapes and audiotapes of Trump from the Ritz and elsewhere.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/05/2017 18:27

(10) A picture is emerging not just of RICO violations by Trump but also Putin having multiple kompromat streams as to the U.S. president.

GingerIvy · 04/05/2017 18:29

MikeFarb‏ @mikefarb1 43s43 seconds ago
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Federal Law Suit filed against Georgia for Illegal Redistricting. twitter.com/lawyerscomm/status/856568504119590912

GingerIvy · 04/05/2017 18:31

Reuters Top News‏Verified account @Reuters 36s37 seconds ago
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State Department wants five years' worth of social media handles for some visa applicants: reut.rs/2qwlDxa

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/05/2017 18:32

It's a developing thread that can be found here:

mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/860173712909381632

I've got to go out and perform electioning duties!

cozietoesie · 04/05/2017 18:33

Never get on the wrong side of the Dutch, eh?

MrsT2007 · 04/05/2017 18:37

It is all go today isn't it?!!

lionheart · 04/05/2017 18:48

Thanks for that collection Ginger and to everyone who has been gathering and sharing on these threads. Smile

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#Trumpcare hurts veterans, seniors, women, people w/ pre-existing conditions, kids. Only way it could be worse is if it also killed puppies.

AcrossthePond55 · 04/05/2017 18:52

Pelosi's making the final appeal for a 'No' vote as I type this.

Vote expected very soon. It's almost 2pm in DC now. I'd expect the vote by 3pm DC time.

AcrossthePond55 · 04/05/2017 19:18

It's passed. 217 aye. 212 nay

GingerIvy · 04/05/2017 19:19

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 36m36 minutes ago
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I am watching the Democrats trying to defend the "you can keep you doctor, you can keep your plan & premiums will go down" ObamaCare lie."

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 22m22 minutes ago
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Insurance companies are fleeing ObamaCare - it is dead. Our healthcare plan will lower premiums & deductibles - and be great healthcare!

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If victorious, Republicans will be having a big press conference at the beautiful Rose Garden of the White House immediately after vote!

AcrossthePond55 · 04/05/2017 19:25

House adjourning to a chorus of "Shame Shame Shame" from protesters on the Capitol steps.

Natsku · 04/05/2017 19:29

Urgh

Lweji · 04/05/2017 19:30

Senate next.

GingerIvy · 04/05/2017 19:34

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The House just passed their disastrous #TrumpCare bill - I'll fight it tooth and nail in the Senate. RT If you're with me.

lionheart · 04/05/2017 19:37

That documentary. Shock