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Week 3. What will this week bring? Trump thread

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amispartacus · 06/02/2017 11:53

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klassy · 06/02/2017 17:47

Well we've just paid for a subscription to the NYTimes for a month as a quiet "fuck you" gesture.

There was a tiny part of me that hesitated for a nanosecond though, thinking, "what if that was to count against you one day".

How shit is that? And I'm a white "privileged" person in a secure country across the pond. Confused

Deejoda · 06/02/2017 17:49

Safari it is very telling. Can it be that just over 2 weeks and he cant take the alternate lies a.k.a actual TRUTH regarding his popularity. It's no fun being held responsible is it twitler?

GingerIvy · 06/02/2017 17:51

Austria is recording their video now. SHould be on the site tomorrow.

Justanotherlurker · 06/02/2017 17:51

1) He really didn't win the popular vote.
2) many, many people voted for him as the least bad option.

1.)The popular vote has never decided the presidential election, and everyone knew the rules before going into this... illogical argument

2.) That says more about Clinton than it does about Trump.

There is a natural swing back in America, I don't agree with Trump but this has been doing the rounds around our American office today

Formerpigwrestler9 · 06/02/2017 17:55

Morocco has joined in!
Nice one Morocco
damning very

AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2017 17:55

There was a tiny part of me that hesitated for a nanosecond though, thinking, "what if that was to count against you one day".

Oh God, @klassy, I've had those same thoughts before tweets and posts and when DH (who has no filter) makes FB posts about Trumpenstein. And then I remember that (channelling President Whitmore from ID4) I will NOT go quietly into that night and that I will not give up my Constitutional Right to Free Speech. They can have my laptop (and my tannoy) when they 'pry it from my cold, dead fingers'.

I'm equally between 'white privilege' and 'non-white oppression' being half white and half Native American by birth. Which side will the Trump-stapo use to silence me?

Deejoda · 06/02/2017 17:56

Ginger bless you for the moroccan gem. #feelingbetter

GingerIvy · 06/02/2017 17:57

Austria should be available tomorrow, and Australia scheduled for Wednesday, from what I've seen. Grin

Deejoda · 06/02/2017 17:57

Across both sides probably. They cant seem to pick a side "message" and stick to it

originalbiglymavis · 06/02/2017 17:58

For insults or neuking?

MercyMyJewels · 06/02/2017 17:58

Lurker

I'm pretty much with this guy. Thanks for that, will have a look into him

GingerIvy · 06/02/2017 17:59

I'm American too, and I did wonder about issues with that. I'm from MN originally, and still have lots of family and friends there, as well as all over the US. It's unnerving to wonder how bad this is going to get. I'm in the UK (and plan to stay here). But it's still scary.

merrymouse · 06/02/2017 18:01

1.)The popular vote has never decided the presidential election, and everyone knew the rules before going into this... illogical argument

Yes, I know. That is why Trump is president.

You are missing the point.

Trump is claiming that polls are wrong. Why would he assume the public support him? It's quite clear that most people didn't vote for him and he has done nothing to change their minds.

AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2017 18:02

Deejoda Ha! You're probably right!

Just in case MNer's aren't familiar with the speech from ID4, here it is. It's eerily prescient, in a Hollywood way! The italics are mine. And we ARE fighting against tyranny, oppression, and persecution not an alien invasion.

"Good morning. Good morning. In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world, and you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. Mankind, that word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences any more. We will be united in our common interest. Perhaps it's fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution, but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live, to exist and should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice, 'We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on, we're going to survive.' Today we celebrate our independence day!"

originalbiglymavis · 06/02/2017 18:04

He says the polls are wrong but assumes the are wrong against him. Yes they probably are wrong but in the other direction.

Bet he hadn't thought if that possibility.

Destinysdaughter · 06/02/2017 18:04

maggie this article is quite good on Bannon's ideology

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/unelected-far-right-figurehead-steve-bannon-making-white-house-policy-a7557496.html

GingerIvy · 06/02/2017 18:04

Across Yes, the "we will not go quietly into the night" has crossed my mind a number of times - and I've seen it posted by quite a few people. Clearly many recognise that this is a battle, not a blip.

GingerIvy · 06/02/2017 18:06

BBC News (World) ‏*@BBCWorld* 7s8 seconds ago
More
Cancelled trips back home
Warnings from immigration lawyers
Pakistani Americans prep to be next on Trump travel ban

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38847787?ocid=socialflow_twitter

merrymouse · 06/02/2017 18:13

lurking, I watched the video. It's pretty standard 'the left are all a bunch of snowflakes' schtick.

Whether or not you believe that has nothing to do with Trump currently being a complete car crash and snowflake in chief.

GingerIvy · 06/02/2017 18:15

HuffPost UK Politics ‏*@HuffPostUKPol* now14 seconds ago
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Trump is angry at claims his staff don't know how to turn White House lights on huff.to/2kFQ1Ct ?

Huffington Post ‏*@HuffingtonPost* now10 seconds ago
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Kellyanne Conway has referred to the "Bowling Green massacre" before huff.to/2kFB5El

Justanotherlurker · 06/02/2017 18:16

Trump is claiming that polls are wrong. Why would he assume the public support him? It's quite clear that most people didn't vote for him and he has done nothing to change their minds.

Hes a narcissist, but it wasn't him that initially brought the "popular vote" to the table, he is goading which isn't a something that POTUS should be doing.

Under the rules he is the president, "most people" are not what decides the president as it stops Mob rule, its shit but the rules haven't changed and both knew what the game was, its the democrats fault that they lost.

Its funny seeing a lot of people on here talking about polls and yet disregard polls around brexit and tory support, a lot of confirmation bias is going on..

GingerIvy · 06/02/2017 18:17

Nervously waiting for the court's response. Hoping like hell they don't reinstate the ban, as it will be dark days indeed.

BiglyBadgers · 06/02/2017 18:20

lurker that video is put out by the Prager University (not an actual university) even a brief perusal of google will tell you that this YouTube channel has some pretty staunchly right wing views. To the extent that youtube has removed some of their videos in the past. Not sure I would listen to them for an unbiased insight into the issues with the liberal left. Hmm

BiglyBadgers · 06/02/2017 18:22

What polls around brexit and Tory support have we disregarded lurker? Please do link to them here. Everyone is welcome to share Smile

Justanotherlurker · 06/02/2017 18:23

It's pretty standard 'the left are all a bunch of snowflakes' schtick.

No its not, that's using a broad brush statement that has just let Trump win, it's the same shit that happened here in the UK when the Tories took the last GE

The pendulum swing that is happening is not some "schtick" that can just be brushed under the carpet without any form of self reflection