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Trump thread continued. Who rules the USA? Vote now.

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amispartacus · 04/02/2017 14:41

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2844593-Dont-put-the-phone-down-on-this-thread-Treat-it-with-respect-Its-the-official-Trump-thread-8?

Because there's a lot going on.

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GingerIvy · 04/02/2017 20:48

Tony Posnanski ‏*@tonyposnanski* 3m3 minutes ago
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To whichever team loses in the Super Bowl tomorrow

Remember

As bad as the loss is

At least you didn't lose the popular vote by 3 million.

Grin
BiglyBadgers · 04/02/2017 20:48

"The IQ of a mob is the IQ of its dumbest member divided by the number of mobsters." - Terry Pratchett

cozietoesie · 04/02/2017 20:48

U.S. veterans planning to defy their CIC?

GingerIvy · 04/02/2017 20:49

Pence is probably sitting back, watching Trump slowly self-destruct, waiting in the wings to smoothly step in.

BiglyBadgers · 04/02/2017 20:50

He is an experienced politition who can see where things are going and is keeping his head down in the hope he will get to grab the big seat when Trump goes down. I think it is now know as pulling a Theresa Grin

PacificDogwod · 04/02/2017 20:50

Terry Pratchett is a genius Grin

GingerIvy · 04/02/2017 20:50

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What is our country coming to when a judge can halt a Homeland Security travel ban and anyone, even with bad intentions, can come into U.S.?

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.@realDonaldTrump Read and respect the constitution, and judges won't have to babysit your presidency.

cozietoesie · 04/02/2017 20:51

I take it that Ivana is keeping a low profile also? Wink

Roussette · 04/02/2017 20:51

Scary! Ginge. I don't know what I think would be best anymore, I'm beyond it...
I'm spending time with a lot of US people in March, it will be interesting to hear what their viewpoints are

cozietoesie · 04/02/2017 20:53

Oh - and I did mean Ivana without a 'k' there. Smile

GingerIvy · 04/02/2017 20:53

cozie yes, I think she is. She and her husband are deliberately trying to portray themselves as "the voice of reason" and a "calming influence" on Trump, not realising that by extension they're calling him erratic and out of control.

GingerIvy · 04/02/2017 20:54

oh, sorry I thought you mean Ivanka.

I think Ivana knows what a shitstorm he'll cause and is laying low. Grin Smart woman.

Badders123 · 04/02/2017 20:54

Reminds me of this..

Trump thread continued. Who rules the USA? Vote now.
BiglyBadgers · 04/02/2017 20:56

He is a scary Bannon video for you just before bed...twitter.com/ReaderAdrift/status/827896685930090497

PacificDogwod · 04/02/2017 20:56

I cannot help but think that Ivana (no k) is glad she's out of it all, and that Melania is trying to find a way out... Grin

BiglyBadgers · 04/02/2017 20:56

twitter.com/ReaderAdrift/status/827896685930090497

BiglyBadgers · 04/02/2017 20:58

Didn't Ivana want to be ambassador to the Czech Republic?

cozietoesie · 04/02/2017 20:59

There have been some .......thoughts about her actions. I should guess that there might be reporters hiding behind every bush outside her residence. You're probably right about her lying low.

AcrossthePond55 · 04/02/2017 21:13

Seeing much coverage of the UK protests on US TV. You are all beautiful people, just beautiful. I mean it, people. Totally mean it. You're just tremendous. The best people. With signs, the best signs.

Now I'm being serious; The solidarity between the people of the UK and US that these protests show, that is the real 'special relationship'!

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BiglyBadgers · 04/02/2017 21:18

OK so maybe I am getting a little bit obsessed by Bannon, but I have just come across this article that sort of supports my earlier rambling. They are basing it on him apparently liking a book called "The Fourth Turning: What Cycles of History Tell Us About America's Next Rendezvous with Destiny." They could labouring the point a bit. I mean I love the moomins, but that doesn't mean I think everyone should hibernate every winter after a meal of pine needles. It is an interesting read though.

Heres a quote:

"He believes that, for the new world order to rise, there must be a massive reckoning. That we will soon reach our climax conflict. In the White House, he has shown that he is willing to advise Trump to enact policies that will disrupt our current order to bring about what he perceives as a necessary new one. He encourages breaking down political and economic alliances and turning away from traditional American principles to cause chaos.

In that way, Bannon seems to be trying to bring about the Fourth Turning. "

Steve Bannon's obsession with a dark theory of history should be worrisome
uk.businessinsider.com/book-steve-bannon-is-obsessed-with-the-fourth-turning-2017-2?r=US&IR=T

saffronwblue · 04/02/2017 21:26

All moving so fast but jumping in to say hope Melania claims a headache this weekend. Or will he start ww3 if he is 'frustrated?'

LilCamper · 04/02/2017 21:30

Across, you may well be my cuz from the show me state. If so...high five!

cozietoesie · 04/02/2017 21:33

It's a ......fraught situation generally, saffron.

ZebraOwl · 04/02/2017 21:34

PacificDogwood
There's quite an interesting article on Hitler's rise here: www.academia.edu/19499291/Hitler_Between_Prussianism_and_Mass_Hysteria
(Well, I think it's quite interesting, anyway... and it has the advantage of being open access. But considering parallels with Trump again - things like voter demographics, fr'ex. Oooh, I wonder if anyone's actually looked at that in depth, actually...)

BiglyBadgers
I miss Pratchett. Just imagine the book[s] he could have got from this.