Not not like the term guys

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I hate it! Please stop.

Title fail, should be To not.

I f*ing hate the term. My lo's have started to use it as their teachers use it in school.

Doesn't bother me, reminds me of the goonies.

I'm afraid that I don't mind it, I may use it myself sometimes but not out of habit.

There was a thread on the feminist board a while ago though discussing whether it matters that women are so often casually misgendered through the use of 'guys', 'man(kind)' etc. which made me stop and think, though.

I use it all the time, it started as a joke when I was a teenager and stuck. It annoys a relative of mine but I don't have much time for people who pull me up on my grammar and speech.

There's a woman in my office who addresses her team as Guys even when the only ones who make the meeting are all women. It's coming to mean the same as People - isn't it?

I was at a training session always delivered to an overwhelmingly female audience and the trainer kept referring to the guys, some of the other guys, the guys said, etc etc. it did start to grate a bit tbh

YABU it's so overly matey, despite usually coming from strangers. Hate it!

"Guys" used in a generic context doesn't refer to all men. I totally disagree that it's "misgendering women", in that context the semantics are different and it's akin to saying "people". The fact it can be used in all-female situations proves that.

I don't see the problem.

What about when people go in to the coffee place and say to the person behind the counter "Can I get a large latte?".... I'm waiting for someone to tell them to fuck off and let them do their job!!!!

Sorry - as for the "guys", yeah. We're not American. Unless you are, in which case you'll be wondering what all the fuss is....

I'm trying to figure out if I'm annoyed by the 'misgendering' of women with the use of guys. In the end though I'd like to see the genders not being segregated so much so a term that encompasses all I see as a good thing.

That it was a masculine term first is rather an inevitability and I can't quite get worked up about it. Bigger fish to fry.

I have a colleague who refers to us as 'guys'. I hate it.

Its quite useful for working with groups, especially young people. I don't like the term girls for women over 16. I think it has become a fairly gender neutral, age neutral harmless way of attracting a groups attention. Language is fluid and some Americanisms are great.

It irks me too therefore YANBU as I am never unreasonable

Can I also add uni to the list of irksome words. Just say university for heavens sake!

Well, as a sort of balancer I tend to refer to any group of males as 'girls'. Just slightly amuses me as I go through my day.

It makes me clench a bit too. Especially used in restaurants by the waiter/waitress. It sounds like we're children on an outing. I almost expect to be given a balloon at the end.

I do rather like 'ladies' though (for a group of women obviously).

Hate it - too american, too patronising.

Hear hear! Loathe it!

What's the alternative? I hate hate hate hate 'ladies'
I email "Dear 'fellow team members'" 'hello all' and shout 'come and eat people' to my family but 'guys' is fine for groups in an informal setting.

Well. I never realised guys was so hated. I use it for my kids sometimes. Doesn't bother me if I hear it at all. Language changes.

If they were using
"Hey fuckers." I'd understand your reaction.

Can't say it bothers me in the slightest.

I hate the word chums. It feels cringy.