Circumcision: A Social Status in the UK ?

[Amazonia]

Curiously in the UK, circumcision is now a matter of social class. While the "ordinary" folks rarely circumcise, circumcision is prevalent in the upper class as well as in the Royal family.

That article says it used to be a royal practice but is dying out ages ago.

So a bit of a pointless debate really

That's nice, dear.

On ucoin, 41 users have 1997 1 peseta coins. DS1 told me this, last night, so I thought you'd care as much about his wisdom as I do yours, OP.

This used to be true, so my dad says. He comes from an upper middle class background and he was circumcised. However he said he believes that's moving out of fashion, although I don't know how he would know since he doesn't know anybody of that background to ask!

Well what do you know, that article says the same.

I think you've woken up in 1930s/1940s.

Used to be the case pre-war and possibly post war I think.

But thankfully died out as a cultural practice among the upper classes after then I think.

Circumcision in the UK has always been a matter of class!

UC always circumcised. Not a matter of class now though, is it? Not many UC muslims in the UK...

Has it really died out? Or is it only mere thinking? I saw a lot of gossips around Prince George's circumcision. Some people say he was, others are in doubt. Finally, no one really knows, right?

Pre-war is also pre-NHS. So it's a marker of class only by proxy (did you have the disposable income for the procedure?)

Surveys of numbers of those born before 1945 put the rate at about 30% (which is far more than UC/UMC in the whole population), and in the debate that followed it fell to about 25%. It then continued to fall to well below 5% (and the paper I looked at puts non-therapeutic rate at about 3% now, but no info on class or religion).

Well my dh has a well common willy. It was done after an infection when he was a child.

HanSolo....Jews circumcise as a matter of religion, too. Just sayin'.

Stooshe- I'm perfectly aware of that! However, Jewish people in the UK tend to be more well-to-do than muslims, on the whole, possibly because in general their families have been here longer.

However, both groups are outside the UK class system in the main, as incomers.

Why does anyone care about prince George's penis? Beak out.

*Prince William didnt look as though he'd been circumcised

When did you see prince William's penis? Are you his wife?

meditrina: These statistics pertain to circumcision at birth, right? It does not tell if the baby is likely to be circumcised later... I do not think there are any statistics indicating the number of babies who got circumcision in the 1st or 2nd year of their life. Only nannies will be able to give you that part of the story LOL.

Amazonia To each according to his need, from each according to his ability!

Andrewofgg : Please translate ;)

Amazonia It's an old Communist slogan. See yours of 11.10.48. Just being coarse.

I need to know if you've seen William's penis. was it kingly? Harry's?

ikea i've been on Mumsnet far too long and saw the Rugby pitch pic

That quote is from the bible, Amazonia.

I stand corrected! Can you give me chapter and verse?

What a load of baloney! We are common as muck and DH and DS done. Not class thing. Tight fused foreskin thing!

It was a meta-analysis - sone papers covered only infant circumcision, others all boys up to age 11, 15 or 17. The post-2000 stats all referred to infants - the older data was more varied.

There's a whole wiki page on that quotation. The concept is in the New Testament (Acts 4:23-35) but this wording is Marx. Draw?

Draw!