EDL....

[DandyFloss]

I am a regular who has name changed for this thread.

I would like to have a discussion about EDL. I want to know exactly why people find them so abhorrent and why it is such a taboo subject.

I dislike militant Islam, it is a dangerous movement and it really frightens me. A family friend was killed in 9/11 and it was a horrible horrible tragedy.

I have two mixed race children, my DH is mixed race, I would not say I'm racist or xenophobic.

As far as I can gather EDL oppose militant Islam, and this alone.

Why does this make them racist? Surely militant Islam, although a very small proportion of Islam, should be opposed?

Calling everyone who's ever attended an EDL rally a thug is like calling all muslims terrorists

What bollocks. The whole point of joining a group like the edl is that they share a very specific view, which is that they don't want Muslims in this country. As I said before t is obvious from spending just a few minutes on one of their Facebook pages that it is not just 'militant' Muslims they are targeting. If you did not want to be associated with such cuntiness then you would never join in the first place.

MrsDeVere - Please don't call me 'love', I find it patrionsing.

Thants.
It is correct that most EDL matches have at least a few Nazi salutes.

Is this enough of a reason OP?

Flaflafla. We do not need protecting from Muslims, what an absurd thing to say. Nothing 'needs to be done' expect the edl to fuck off. You are clearly a bigot who knows nothing about Islam or the edl.

you are behaving very oddly - are you just going to keep saying the same thing ? you have been give many examples of what the EDL really stand for - and Mrs DV has a bloody good point

If you read my post you would know I am not Muslim and I am mixed (black/white) and I have been racially abused by EDL. So many people have told you this but you aren't listening.

So you are either not interested in hearing people or you set this thread up to wind MNers up.

Starting to wonder if this thread should be lovebombed ladies?!

OP, are you really that fucking lazy that you are interested in a subject, feel you don't know much about it, and can't be bothered to google it? Really?

Or, are some have suspected, are you just trying to provoke more controversy?

EDL oppose all people who aren't British and white and also Jews.

Think that about covers it.

They are using the whole 'militant Muslim' thing as a front to whip up support through fear and ignorance.

flaflafla and what has Christianity tried to do for hundreds of years? Here have a

Sorry but I think that Muslims are a problem. They have an aim of spreading the Muslim faith all over the world and increasing it's influence everywhere. This is not good for non Muslims and people who disagree with what it stands for. The most free countries in the world are all non-Muslim, even countries like Turkey and Morocco that are relatively free by Muslim standards are still very restrictive and repressed by western standards. It saddens me to see women in Britain walking around in a burka, and to see British schools feeding children the "Halal" meat.

You're posts are so ignorant, why don't you spout your uneducated racist views views elsewhere?

Your views are repulsive, flaflafla

Fla, do you have a problem with Christian missionaries, working around the world, spreading the word of Jesus?

Oops the extra 'views' in that post was unneeded, much like you flaflafla

MrsDeVere - What a fucking ridiculous post, how dare you?

LittlePeaPodWhere & gordyslovesheep - Where have I said I have not accepted anything anyone has said? Can you show me because I DON'T KNOW.. As far as I'm concerned I have accepted what I have learned from this thread, and that yes, the EDL are racist, but clearly you know better...?

flaflafla Most,if not,all religions want to spread the word and their faith and spreading their word...not just Muslims (JW?).

As for being saddened by seeing women walking around wearing burkas..I am fucking livid about people in a Spurs tshirt...but they you go. Takes everyone to make a world.

The worms are now crawling out of the woodwork, and the thread is heading in its intended direction...

FlaFlaFla: did you know that less that 1% of terrorist attacks in Europe over the last few years have involved Muslims? Why does something have to be done about Muslims rather than anyone else?

MrsDeVere has hit the nail on the head with her post at 15:31:20.

Actually I think the OP is just goading as her responses are more than a little odd.

I have a good education thank you, a university degree, maybe not from a top university but still.

It seems that "educated" means in favour of Islam, I do not think that is the case. I live in Lancashire and there is a lot of conflict here between white British people and Muslims, and all too often, the authorities seem to side with the Muslims. My family are in the meat trade and the contracts for schools have all been handed over to Muslim butchers so that schools all have Halal meat, parents have not been consulted about this.

Flaflafla. Muslims are not a problem. You are reading to much right wing press which only reports on Muslims and silences violence by whites. There is an agenda!
Yes certain countries run by sharia law are violent and oppressive but that's not the Muslim faith causing that, it's corrupt and violent government. Hitler and stalin were not Muslim yet obviously commited huge human right violations. North Korea is not a Muslim country but people who live there suffer horrifically under the government.
Religion is not the problem it is the way it is used. Evil people will use any means to oppress.
And again the edl are not even helping people who are oppressed they are making it worse by segregating us further!