EDL....

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I am a regular who has name changed for this thread.

I would like to have a discussion about EDL. I want to know exactly why people find them so abhorrent and why it is such a taboo subject.

I dislike militant Islam, it is a dangerous movement and it really frightens me. A family friend was killed in 9/11 and it was a horrible horrible tragedy.

I have two mixed race children, my DH is mixed race, I would not say I'm racist or xenophobic.

As far as I can gather EDL oppose militant Islam, and this alone.

Why does this make them racist? Surely militant Islam, although a very small proportion of Islam, should be opposed?

Gordy used the present tense, Flapjack. Do you think the UK currently has a massive problem with Irish nationalist extremists?

I'd say the IRA was a bigger threat overall. But still not massive.

"We have a massive problem in the UK with islamic extremism."
We really don't. Unless by "massive" you mean "very small".

I think you will find radical islamists in many many mosques. It IS a problem.......and it will get worse.

Fla, I come from Burnley and my whole extended family still live there. Being from a rundown former milltown does not give you an excuse to be racist, and I'm embarrasses to be associated with you. Amd that phrase 'former milltown'? That might give you a clue as to what went wrong, and it has fuck all to do with Muslims.

Yeah right.

No, I don't think we currently have a massive problem with Irish nationalist extremists - things change. And someone else takes their place.

I have also heard about non-muslims being offered bags of cash to leave their homes and being intimidated until they go.

Right. So your response to Gordy was wrongheaded, to say the least. You see, it looks as though you saw what you wanted to see in her post, instead of reading it properly.

Well, I remember several IRA bomb scares through the 80s and 90s but I've never encountered a Muslim terrorist one ever, personally.

Where did you hear it? From stupid arsed things spread by the EDL via facebook etc?

Do you believe everything that fits neatly with your rather abhorrent views?

Flapjack You will find extremists of many kinds in many many places, in the grand scheme of things though do you honestly think they are one of the greatest problems we are facing right now?

"AdventureTed Sun 29-Sep-13 19:05:24

I have also heard about non-muslims being offered bags of cash to leave their homes and being intimidated until they go. "

Bahahahhahahaha, where do these bags of cash come from, for a bag of cash (made up of £50's (obviously), I'd consider moving house with no intimidation.

The most ridiculous and clearly made up thing I have heard yet against Muslims!

Most of the EDL are so think they think anyone of Indian appearance is a Muslim.

Ted You'll believe anything wont you?

Adventure you've yet to answer, from WHO have you heard this, to YOUR FACE not to your mate in the EDL on facebook?

Are your muslim friends like Dave's black mate?

And Flapjack evidence please of extremists in all Mosques, and what do they look like so DH can be a bit wary, bet they have beards don't they? And Big eyebrows? "tis all about the hair....

Aaaah now AdventureTed has heard about non-Muslims being offered bags of cash to leave their homes! This is on top of also hearing Muslims want Sharia law to come in!

Who are you kidding?

Flapjack You will find extremists of many kinds in many many places, in the grand scheme of things though do you honestly think they are one of the greatest problems we are facing right now?

Not right now, but most certainly in the future. Sharia Law will become on a par with British Law most certainly.

pretty much agreeing with MrsDeVere. They came to our town and stood around doing Nazi salutes. I think that might be a teeny bit fascist...

"Sharia Law will become on a par with British Law most certainly."

Really? What makes you think that?

I bet she's also heard about them 'illegals' getting all that money from the government when our pensioners get £3 and a button.

YoutheCat - abhorrent? I believe that all people are equal. I believe that some muslims want the UK to be under sharia law. I do not want this, and neither do my muslim friends. Does that make our views abhorrent?

A salesman told me about the bags of money. He also told me where it happened. I suggest you all take a nice little walk around Glodwick in Oldham and see where it gets you. (I'm not from there, thank goodness).

The point I've been trying to make is that Islamic Extremism is far far more of a problem to other Muslims mainly in Asian and African countries than it will ever be in the UK.

Flapjack, that would require a whole load of extremist Muslims to be elected to our government and change the law from within. Do you really see that happening?

What utter rot!

Yes, abhorrent. You are believing things that some bloke told you? Seriously?

I dislike militant, fundmentalist extremist Islam as well. So does everyone sane. You don't need to join a bunch of dangerous extremists in order to express your dislike of dangerous extremists you know.