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Transphobic Christmas lights

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Bitchyfrench · 04/11/2026 20:43

Can't believe more people aren't up in arms about the transphobic Harry Potter Oxford Street lights.

Apparently a mere 10,000 people have sent emails to London Mayor Sir Sadiq Khan demanding that he ‘pull the plug on transphobia’ and cancel the themed lights.

The Good Law Project, who are always at the forefront of good sense and well-rounded thinking are quite rightly outraged that trans folk can't possibly feel Christmassy when inanimate twinkly Christmas lights are mocking their right to feel festive.

Down with this sort of thing.

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Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:31

Hedgehogforshort · 05/11/2026 20:28

@Bobafett2020 so according to the document headline of those surveyed 5 to 6 percent of trans people said they were harassed in whatever toilet, the very worst being 10%

so the vast majority were just fine.

in a survey off Bob, Jill, Sam and a couple of NB mates, perhaps, who knows.

fucking horrific innit.

Not sure you'd be happy to be harassed 1 in 10 times you go to the toilet.

naffogato · 05/11/2026 20:32

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:30

Literally everything you just said is false!

Literally all of it is true.

Hedgehogforshort · 05/11/2026 20:32

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viques · 05/11/2026 20:34

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:29

Funnily enough I am a statistician and I will take a reputable study from the Williams Institute over your household survey anyday.

Well, as a statistician you will be well aware of the saying “ lies, damn lies and statistics”. And speaking as a non statistician with a well developed instinct for deception, it is good to have that confirmed by one who has insider knowledge.

naffogato · 05/11/2026 20:34

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:29

Funnily enough I am a statistician and I will take a reputable study from the Williams Institute over your household survey anyday.

Reputable?!?! 😂😂😂😂

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/11/2026 20:36

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:02

Yes there is loads of evidence. Go look it up and stop with the whataboutery

This is not whataboutery - you literally made the claim. All I'm asking for is whether you can back it up.

You think you are coming in with insights and knowledge but to me you are just someone parroting a line.

Because I've seen over the years it has become an article of faith that men who choose to present as their idea of a "woman" are at terrible risk in all male spaces, and furthermore that rather than this being something that suggests something has gone very wrong with men and should be dealt with, the attitude seems to be "meh, what can you do? Men will be men. Best we bundle the poor transwoman lads into the ladies instead. Oh - but only the ones who say they are women. Any other men who are sacred and vulnterable can just take their chances - we don't really care about their risks at all!"

And as you can see when it's all written down clearly, that story doesn't seem to actually add up at all.

So I'm asking you to think about this. To go beyond what you've been told is happening and find out whether what you have been told is really true.

And then realise that even if it is true, it's still not ok to turn women's spaces into male refuges. It's just the same old sexism that says women only get to exist for ourselves in the spaces men don't want to be. Anywhere else, and what the man wants comes first. Even if he likes to say he is a woman.

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:36

Waitingfordoggo · 05/11/2026 20:29

You might have inferred that, but no one implied it.

I said:

‘I am grateful for our feminist foremothers who fought for the spaces we now have access to’.

We needed spaces for women. Feminists fought for them. We got them. The end.

If trans people and their allies had started campaigning for their own third spaces ten or fifteen years ago when the current ideology was taking hold, they could have had them by now. (And they would have likely had a lot of support from feminists). Instead they have wasted all that time shouting for something they can’t have, and managed in the process to make people lose sympathy for them.

Lol at trans people only being around for the last 15 years! You are right, I did infer that because the conversation was around segregation from men rather than numbers of toilets.
Trans people have been using toilets without any problems at all for decades and had no need to fight for third spaces. The last 15 years or so has seen the rise of extreme transphobia and policing of spaces (driven in large part by JKR), which is what has bought the issue to the forefront.

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:37

naffogato · 05/11/2026 20:32

Literally all of it is true.

No. It really isn't.

SirChenjins · 05/11/2026 20:38

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:37

No. It really isn't.

It really is.

You can pretend it isn't, just as you can pretend to be a statistician, but that doesn't make it true.

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:38

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Wow. If it wasn't outing I would send you my name on my paper! What a cheek. I most definitely am a statistician thank you very much.

naffogato · 05/11/2026 20:41

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:37

No. It really isn't.

It really is.

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:41

naffogato · 05/11/2026 20:34

Reputable?!?! 😂😂😂😂

I mean its part of UCLA. They're reputable right?

Tears0fTheMushroom · 05/11/2026 20:41

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:31

Not sure you'd be happy to be harassed 1 in 10 times you go to the toilet.

Um... I thought you said you were a statistician
Or do you just INDENTFY as one?

Tears0fTheMushroom · 05/11/2026 20:43

SirChenjins · 05/11/2026 20:38

It really is.

You can pretend it isn't, just as you can pretend to be a statistician, but that doesn't make it true.

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It's all getting a bit panto here 😂

SirChenjins · 05/11/2026 20:44

Tears0fTheMushroom · 05/11/2026 20:43

It's all getting a bit panto here 😂

😂

Oh no it's not!

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:44

viques · 05/11/2026 20:34

Well, as a statistician you will be well aware of the saying “ lies, damn lies and statistics”. And speaking as a non statistician with a well developed instinct for deception, it is good to have that confirmed by one who has insider knowledge.

Yawn. That's such a tired old thing that everybody says to statisticians. You think you are being clever but in reality we just smile and make a mental note note that you are probably not informed enough to bother continuing the conversation.

Hedgehogforshort · 05/11/2026 20:44

Tears0fTheMushroom · 05/11/2026 20:43

It's all getting a bit panto here 😂

Lh no it isn’t, (he’s behind you)

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:46

SirChenjins · 05/11/2026 20:38

It really is.

You can pretend it isn't, just as you can pretend to be a statistician, but that doesn't make it true.

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I am a statistician, it's pretty rude to tell somebody they don't do the job they just told you they do? Why are you assuming that?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/11/2026 20:47

Ah, good old not-at-all-biased self reported US research again.

Are you sure you are a statistician? You don't see a slight concern with asking a self selected group "is the thing that you are using to make the case for somethign you really want actually happeing, or not?"

Any actual crime stats? Anything from the UK?

Also - Not sure you'd be happy to be harassed 1 in 10 times you go to the toilet - I am loving your statistical deduction that trans people only go to the khazi once a year!

SirChenjins · 05/11/2026 20:48

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:46

I am a statistician, it's pretty rude to tell somebody they don't do the job they just told you they do? Why are you assuming that?

Thoughts and prayers

naffogato · 05/11/2026 20:48

Most of this is self selecting. It’s like asking foxes if they feel safer in the hen house or not being allowed access to the hen house.

Hedgehogforshort · 05/11/2026 20:49

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:46

I am a statistician, it's pretty rude to tell somebody they don't do the job they just told you they do? Why are you assuming that?

Could be something to do with your analysis, 10% suddenly becomes 1 in 10 visits.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/11/2026 20:49

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:46

I am a statistician, it's pretty rude to tell somebody they don't do the job they just told you they do? Why are you assuming that?

Is it as rude as a man telling a woman he is a woman too just like her because of how he feels, and if she still perceives his body as a man that's her problem not his cos he is coming in anyway?

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:50

Tears0fTheMushroom · 05/11/2026 20:41

Um... I thought you said you were a statistician
Or do you just INDENTFY as one?

Is 10% not 1 in 10? You might want to have a think about that. Also mocking somebody about being dyslexic (I'm not) is pretty ablist. You might want to think about that as well.

Waitingfordoggo · 05/11/2026 20:50

Bobafett2020 · 05/11/2026 20:36

Lol at trans people only being around for the last 15 years! You are right, I did infer that because the conversation was around segregation from men rather than numbers of toilets.
Trans people have been using toilets without any problems at all for decades and had no need to fight for third spaces. The last 15 years or so has seen the rise of extreme transphobia and policing of spaces (driven in large part by JKR), which is what has bought the issue to the forefront.

I’m well aware that gender nonconforming people have been around for a long time- I remember many of them from my youth, and I’m not young. And there have always been people who wished they were the opposite sex.

My post talked about the current ideology, ie the erroneous ideas that people can change sex, or indeed just say which sex they believe themselves to be, and everyone else being required to believe them and go along with it. Hence this is also the same time period in which people like JKR have pushed back and questioned the ideology (what you call ‘transphobia’).

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