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It Costs A Lot Of Money To Be This Cheap - Trump Thread #169

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Spandauer · 30/08/2026 18:06

(Title with apologies to Miss Dolly)

Griftin’ 9 to 5, what a way to make a livin’, Truth Social is the lie, it’s all takin' and no givin'.
(Thanks @Jaichangecentfoisdenom)

Tangerine, Tangerine, Tangerine, Tangeriiiiiiiiiine. I'm begging of you please don't bomb Oman.
(Thanks @dapsnotplimsolls)

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Errolwasahero · 22/09/2026 21:57

I didn’t watch but I saw a clip of his disgusting take on Cuba, and them walking out (I assume it was real?) tbh I’m disappointed the rest of the delegation didn’t follow them.

placemats · 22/09/2026 22:26

A few delegates walked out.

RedTagAlan · 23/09/2026 06:05

placemats · 22/09/2026 22:26

A few delegates walked out.

Not surprised. The speakers before talked about working together for the greater good, understanding, unity and talking being better then war and conflict, and along comes Trump talking about how he will destroy the "evil governments"

Here is how PRC state media is reporting the Uncle Xi visit, as Uncle is on a plane. Lets see what Agent Orange TRUTHs out.

Xi’s upcoming US visit to chart course for bilateral ties - Global Times

"There is so much good that can come from the two nations working together to address the world's most challenging problems," Moretti told the Global Times. Realizing that potential, however, requires US political elites to shift their thinking, he told the Global Times. "Sure, hold to the values that are essential to the nation, but stop the chronic negativity," Moretti said.

That sets the Chinese narrative then. That it is the US causing the problems.

Edit to add. Lets watch Trump prove them wrong. Erm....

Xi’s upcoming US visit to chart course for bilateral ties - Global Times

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202609/1371160.shtml

CaveMum · 23/09/2026 06:55

HCR’s letter today:

September 22, 2026 (Tuesday)

In 1945, still reeling from World War II, representatives from 50 nations reached back to the U.S. Constitution when they wrote the Preamble to the United Nations charter. “WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS” were, they wrote, “DETERMINED to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained.”

Central to that effort was the principle, stated in Article 2, that “[a]ll Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.”

The U.N. General Assembly has been meeting in New York City since September 8, and today began its high-level General Debate, the annual meeting of the heads of state and heads of government that launches the General Assembly session. At the General Debate, all 193 U.N. member states are invited to address the General Assembly.

By tradition, Brazil speaks first because it was the first to volunteer to speak in 1955 when no other country would. Because the United States is the country that hosts the United Nations, it usually speaks second.

In his speech today, President Donald J. Trump, reading haltingly off a teleprompter, said: “I have a big decision to make. Will a deal be made with Iran that lets them rebuild and create a far greater country than it ever was before, maybe one of the greatest in the Middle East or even the world? Or do I annihilate the Islamic Republic and do it quickly, never giving them a chance to kill and destroy people and countries again? Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness or generations?”

Much of the Iranian delegation walked out.

Trump’s immediate switch to a talking point about the midterms suggests that his speech was aimed at U.S. voters more than the U.N. audience, but it should not be overlooked that he stood in front of world leaders and rejected the premise of the U.N.

Touting his own “Board of Peace” and continuing his fiction that he has solved multiple wars, he outlined a fantasy worldview of himself as a powerful dictator, a man of action who rejects the diplomacy at the heart of the U.N.

“I do not believe in letting problems fester,” he declared. “They only become harder to solve. So while others have talked, I have acted. While others have spoken of peace, I have made peace. While others have ignored threats, I have confronted them. While others have talked of courage, America has shown it. While others have promised strength, I have used it to make America the most powerful country in the world.”

Rejecting the principles on which the U.N. was founded, Trump instead embraced the idea that powerful countries will have spheres of influence, dominating their neighbors. This is the worldview advanced by Russia’s president Vladimir Putin, who seeks to have control over the decisions made by the countries around Russia, including Ukraine. In this worldview, as Trump sees it, the United States will control the western hemisphere.

“To the victor belong the spoils,” he told the U.N. in a perverse echo of the world the U.N. founders set out to change. “You’ve all heard that.”

Trump threatened Mexico and boasted of U.S. attacks on Venezuela that removed Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro from power and replaced him with Delcy Rodríguez, who was willing to work with the Trump administration to allow the U.S. access to Venezuelan oil fields.

“Our actions in Venezuela are proof that the United States will no longer permit threats to America to gain a foothold anywhere in the Western Hemisphere. And if necessary, we will use our unmatched military might to secure the vital national interests of the United States.”

“My administration is also seeking a fundamental change in the situation in Cuba,” Trump said, “where the communist regime is under great pressure, the biggest pressure they've ever been under. It's an absolutely failed state. It's failing like never before and it will fall. Marco Rubio is handling a negotiation. He's deep into negotiations with Cuba. Let's see what happens.”

The Cuban delegation walked out.

In an echo of White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller and Vice President J.D. Vance, Trump went full white nationalist, accusing the “U.N.’s top human rights officials” of wanting the U.S. “to open up our borders to gangs and criminals from [the] world's most dangerous places…. It is deeply ironic that the United Nations has an entire institution, the UNESCO group of people and countries devoted to protecting cultural heritage. Yet with their ceaseless promotion of mass migration, these globalists are actively destroying the greatest cultures and most extraordinary heritage in all of history. There is no human right to illegal immigration, but there is a right to remain a sovereign nation, and we want to remain a sovereign nation and so should you.”

United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres, the former prime minister of Portugal, asked the nations of the world to hold fast to a different vision.

He warned that “we are witnessing an extraordinary transfer of power away from governments to a handful of private corporations and individuals,” whose “reach now extends across politics, economies, information flows, technological development, and the civic space on which societies depend.”

“At the very moment when humanity faces an unprecedented convergence of threats, our mechanisms for collective action are under growing strain.”

There are two routes open, Guterres said. Either the world will fragment into “transactionalism,” “rising tensions and deepening mistrust,” “fractured markets and weakened institutions,” “shrinking cooperation and zero-sum calculations,” or it will move toward “networked multipolarity,” a “world built on interdependence—and sustained by a dense web of economic, political, social, and technological connections. A world in which multiple centres of influence coexist within a common framework of international law and shared rules.”

Against the backdrop of Russia’s debacle in Ukraine and the U.S. morass in Iran, Guterres noted that the world’s superpowers have learned that “their power isn’t so super. That their power has limits.”

He urged countries to hold fast to the principles of the United Nations: “The primacy of international law. Upholding human dignity. And the pursuit of justice in all its dimensions.”
“It comes down to this,” he said, “Will we act to ensure that power is governed by law or by force? By cooperation or coercion?”

Force must not “be the final arbiter of whose lives, rights, and future matter,” he said.

He called out the war in Iran and conflicts in the Middle East; Israel’s onslaught on the Palestinians in Gaza “with a scale of killing and destruction unlike anything I have witnessed in all my years as Secretary-General”; “violence, displacement and settlement expansion by Israel in the Occupied West Bank”; Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in violation of the U.N. charter; the war on civilians in Sudan, with millions displaced; and escalating violence in Myanmar.

Guterres added that “[n]o discussion of inequality can ignore its most universal form: The inequality between men and women. Everywhere, women and girls continue to face discrimination, violence, exclusion, and abuse. Around the world: Their rights are being rolled back. Their voices silenced. Their bodies turned into battlegrounds. And their freedoms treated as bargaining chips.

“This is an outrage—and a profound waste for humanity. Peace is more durable when women are at the table. Economies are more dynamic when women have equal opportunity. Societies are more resilient when girls can learn, lead, and live free from fear. And institutions are more effective when power is shared equally.”

“Equality is not a dream,” Guterres said. “It is a decision.”

“Excellencies,” he said, “The test before us is whether power will be exercised with the law—or beyond it.”

“In the face of a global catastrophe more than 80 years ago,” Guterres said, “the United Nations was created as an act of defiance. The defiance of people who refuse to surrender the future to fear. The defiance against the self-defeating notion that might makes right. The defiance of countries that know our futures are bound together.

“The defiance of hope.”

PerkingFaintly · 23/09/2026 07:47

Interesting that that body language expert identifies that Burnham offers Trump very few signs of attention in that meeting.

Trump is performing for the press and trying to draw Burnham in. Burnham looks forward at the press rather than sideways at Trump, doesn't give Trump much eye-contact, doesn't show much response as it's all going on beside him.

And at the end of that, when they do the handshake, Trump doesn't try his usual seize and tug routine on Burnham.

We've mentioned before that Trump craves attention (ideally adoration but shock will do), and also that he responds well to strongmen. I bet this approach was worked out by Burnham's folks beforehand: don't feed Trump, let him work for it.

PerkingFaintly · 23/09/2026 08:03

In his speech today, President Donald J. Trump, reading haltingly off a teleprompter, said: “I have a big decision to make. Will a deal be made with Iran that lets them rebuild and create a far greater country than it ever was before, maybe one of the greatest in the Middle East or even the world? Or do I annihilate the Islamic Republic and do it quickly, never giving them a chance to kill and destroy people and countries again? Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness or generations?”

That choice of language is as revealing as the body language when he's with Burnham.

Every sentence is "I will do this, I will do that"... except making the deal. That's passive tense.

It communicates that dealmaker Trump will not make the deal; that's other people's job.

Why are he and his speechwriters distancing Trump from the concept of making a deal with Iran? I'd guess because they know he can't, and are trying to disown his failure.

Spandauer · 23/09/2026 08:48

No big surprises or hoohah from Drumpf at the UN it seems. Just more of the same pointless but dangerous rhetoric.

And today he gets to play with Uncle Xi.

Thanks for the body language link @logicisall It would be interesting to see an analysis of Trump and Xi together.

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BruceAndNosh · 23/09/2026 08:50

PerkingFaintly · 23/09/2026 08:03

In his speech today, President Donald J. Trump, reading haltingly off a teleprompter, said: “I have a big decision to make. Will a deal be made with Iran that lets them rebuild and create a far greater country than it ever was before, maybe one of the greatest in the Middle East or even the world? Or do I annihilate the Islamic Republic and do it quickly, never giving them a chance to kill and destroy people and countries again? Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness or generations?”

That choice of language is as revealing as the body language when he's with Burnham.

Every sentence is "I will do this, I will do that"... except making the deal. That's passive tense.

It communicates that dealmaker Trump will not make the deal; that's other people's job.

Why are he and his speechwriters distancing Trump from the concept of making a deal with Iran? I'd guess because they know he can't, and are trying to disown his failure.

That's very perceptive and the syntax is hardly accidental.

In other news, the piped music playing as people assembled prior to the Danish /Greenland /US agreement included Send in the Clowns as Marco Rubio walked in.

BruceAndNosh · 23/09/2026 08:53

Who the fuck taught Trump the words "National Security"? He's using it to justify pulling down part of the White House and building his naff Triumphal Arch. I'm sure the Kennedy Centre demolition will be deemed essential for national security soon.
The irony is that the biggest current threat to national security is Donald Trump’s mouth

walllaw · 23/09/2026 09:11

Spandauer · 23/09/2026 08:48

No big surprises or hoohah from Drumpf at the UN it seems. Just more of the same pointless but dangerous rhetoric.

And today he gets to play with Uncle Xi.

Thanks for the body language link @logicisall It would be interesting to see an analysis of Trump and Xi together.

Do we need a body language expert to identify craven boot licking?

walllaw · 23/09/2026 09:13

Have just had a quick look at the Gosport 'small boat arrivals' thread on here.

Honestly, the old adage about being doomed to repeat history is out the window. Trump et al's 'caravans of immigrants' isn't even history and the US is paying the price every day. Do these people not have eyes?

DuncinToffee · 23/09/2026 09:15

Do these people no have eyes

Depends where they are posting from?

That thread is just vile

OnePeppyFatball · 23/09/2026 09:43

Didn’t Donny also say that Global warming was a hoax in his speech?

Go tell that to Nepal.

DuncinToffee · 23/09/2026 09:46

https://bsky.app/profile/nothoodlum.bsky.social/post/3mw52a2mqnk2w

While waiting for Trump to enter the signing of the US-Denmark-Greenland agreement at the UN, they chose “Send in the Clowns” as the background music. Yes, it’s real.

Spandauer · 23/09/2026 09:50

Actually going to contradict myself now that I've watched 🍊💩's UN speech in full!

Not just more of the same - much worse. Made even more insulting by the fact it was given to the assembled UN members.

He was like some Lex Luther-type super villain setting out how he intended to take over the world. War crimes being touted in almost every sentence!

They really should have all walked out.

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PerkingFaintly · 23/09/2026 09:59

A piece of not so good news yesterday, if the hack is confirmed:

ShinyHunters hackers say they breached FBI, stole data on bureau employees
www.reuters.com/world/shinyhunters-hackers-say-they-breached-federal-bureau-investigation-no-immediate-2026-09-22/

SerendipityJane · 23/09/2026 10:10

PerkingFaintly · 23/09/2026 09:59

A piece of not so good news yesterday, if the hack is confirmed:

ShinyHunters hackers say they breached FBI, stole data on bureau employees
www.reuters.com/world/shinyhunters-hackers-say-they-breached-federal-bureau-investigation-no-immediate-2026-09-22/

I don't know. If true, it suggests that for once in their lives the baddies will not be able to buy their way out of this.If we assume the baddies in this are the FBI that is.

CaveMum · 23/09/2026 10:26

Spandauer · 23/09/2026 09:50

Actually going to contradict myself now that I've watched 🍊💩's UN speech in full!

Not just more of the same - much worse. Made even more insulting by the fact it was given to the assembled UN members.

He was like some Lex Luther-type super villain setting out how he intended to take over the world. War crimes being touted in almost every sentence!

They really should have all walked out.

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Have you ever seen the tv series, from the 90s, “Merlin” that had Sam Neill as Merlin and Miranda Richardson as Queen Mab?

Theres a scene near the end where Mab is trying to regain control of her followers and Merlin simply says “We forget you Mab” and they all turn their backs on her and she fades into the ether, because without acknowledgment or belief she is nothing.

We need that for DT!

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 23/09/2026 11:21

Spandauer · 23/09/2026 09:50

Actually going to contradict myself now that I've watched 🍊💩's UN speech in full!

Not just more of the same - much worse. Made even more insulting by the fact it was given to the assembled UN members.

He was like some Lex Luther-type super villain setting out how he intended to take over the world. War crimes being touted in almost every sentence!

They really should have all walked out.

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The question remains, why didn't they? It's so frustrating. They should have been treating him with the disrespect he clearly deserves since at least the beginning of his second term. He is now the dictator of a tin pot banana republic, no longer the President of a great country and the leader of the Western World. (My apologies to the long-suffering Americans on this thread, my anger is solely aimed at Agent Orange and his enablers.)

RedTagAlan · 23/09/2026 11:30

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 23/09/2026 11:21

The question remains, why didn't they? It's so frustrating. They should have been treating him with the disrespect he clearly deserves since at least the beginning of his second term. He is now the dictator of a tin pot banana republic, no longer the President of a great country and the leader of the Western World. (My apologies to the long-suffering Americans on this thread, my anger is solely aimed at Agent Orange and his enablers.)

It is the UN I suppose. Those posts about what people said about peace and all that, so apply to everyone.

As many have said before, Trump is actually uniting people. Against him.

New world order and all that. New alliances being formed, to get away from Trump, and the US system that has been shown not to be the force for good after all.

I join you in your bit about long-suffering Americans.

SerendipityJane · 23/09/2026 11:32

RedTagAlan · 23/09/2026 11:30

It is the UN I suppose. Those posts about what people said about peace and all that, so apply to everyone.

As many have said before, Trump is actually uniting people. Against him.

New world order and all that. New alliances being formed, to get away from Trump, and the US system that has been shown not to be the force for good after all.

I join you in your bit about long-suffering Americans.

There are definite echoes of Napoleon here.

AcrossthePond55 · 23/09/2026 13:59

He's a fucking embarrassment. But that's nothing that all the other UN countries don't already know. I'm going to assume that they just mentally 'faded out' during his speech and gave their minds over to the contemplation of problems they can deal with and positive alliances they can form.

I don't know why they even invited him to speak. I don't know if that's a 'usual thing' they do for POTI (POTUSES??) as the 'host nation' or if he demanded the time.

I notice he's added 'after the midterms' to his timeframe lexicon. At least it's something different than 'two weeks'.

41 days. It won't get rid of him if we win either the House or Senate (or both), but it will give him something new to worry about; investigations and a possible 3rd impeachment.

RedTagAlan · 23/09/2026 14:09

AcrossthePond55 · 23/09/2026 13:59

He's a fucking embarrassment. But that's nothing that all the other UN countries don't already know. I'm going to assume that they just mentally 'faded out' during his speech and gave their minds over to the contemplation of problems they can deal with and positive alliances they can form.

I don't know why they even invited him to speak. I don't know if that's a 'usual thing' they do for POTI (POTUSES??) as the 'host nation' or if he demanded the time.

I notice he's added 'after the midterms' to his timeframe lexicon. At least it's something different than 'two weeks'.

41 days. It won't get rid of him if we win either the House or Senate (or both), but it will give him something new to worry about; investigations and a possible 3rd impeachment.

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Order of speaking is by convention. From the UN website -

  • UN Secretary-General
  • President of the General Assembly
  • Brazil (regardless of the level of representation)
  • United States (as the host country, regardless of the level of representation).

Apparently Brazil if the first country because they were first to speak at the 10th. Something like that. US 2nd cos they are the hosts, as you say.

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