Terror attack on Berlin Pride

[HermioneWeasley]

police are looking for a suspect with Islamist links.

yesterday I saw that islamic bookshops run by the Muslim brotherhood (who are banned in Egypt and I think the UAE) are bringing “workers” over on skilled worker visas. The UAE has stopped government scholarships to British universities because they are worried about their young people being radicalised here!

islamic terrorism is a problem. 75% of Mi5’s watch list are Muslim.

how do we remain a safe and tolerant place for the many peaceful Muslims while still retaining our values and safety?

Berlin Pride attack: suspect named after one killed and 16 injured

www.thetimes.com/article/470b9315-80aa-4c5f-92e5-2bc2ef91b02b?shareToken=2f519edb5016673a387a427079f51e9d

@HermioneWeasley yes

What a lot of the virtue narcissist hand-wringers don't seem to realise is expecting Islamists to accept let alone approve of homesexuality is akin to asking an English person with English heritage to accept or approve of something like FGM

The terrifying thing is this is happening! Only last year a group of western female academics published a paper saying we shouldn’t condemn FGM because it was an important cultural practice in some parts of the world.

Ironically, the very people who whinge and moan about intolerance are the same people who are so intolerant of others. They’re telling us who they are so we should believe them. I know we can’t reverse allowing so many to come here to the UK, but we can certainly research the issue now to protect future generations. Totally off topic - I always fail to see why there even needs to be Pride marches. You’re gay. So what?! Just get on with your lives doing what you want to do. Homosexuality in Westernised countries is widely accepted as ‘normal’ these days. These marches are totally unnecessary. IMO…

My friend married a Muslim he’s been here. 35 years his eldest daughter is gay she can’t go into the house anymore. They can’t tell his family as if they do her cousins can’t marry this shit goes deap and the repercussions are wide

@Livelovebehappy to be fair, I think a lot of gay people would agree with you. Many feel that Pride has been subverted by fetishists and trans activists

When are people going to be nice. It's all we ever hear about now, stuffike this and stabbings

Stuff like this .

I didn't know gay people were a particularly large proportion of the British/German armed forces, or that they are prominent in the IDF. Or little girls for that matter. So 'pre natal trauma' makes people homophobic does it?

We let down so many women and girls in this country, denying them personal emancipation and the freedom to live their lives as they please because of their origin, it is heartbreaking.
I have seen toddlers in hijabs and I am
so angry.
And there is even worse
https://hayaschool.co.uk/

Many countries aren't nice. Many parts of the world aren't nice. Life is a poverty stricken fight for survival and there is oppression and violence. We're very lucky to have been born here as we don't know anything other than peace.

Nice isn't the normal state for human beings. We only learned to become nice through some particular sets of circumstances and from what we were taught.

Nice is gone. It's over. It's never going to happen again. We rejected what we were given and now we're paying the price. It's going to get a lot worse and we're going to end up like the countries we're used to seeing on TV over the years with their violence, oppression of women, rape and social injustices. This is the future. This is what we wanted.

Can you really class AfD as far right when they have a female lesbian leader? Is not that against all far right idealism? She doesn’t even live in Germany as it is too dangerous.

The first fascist group in the UK was founded by a lesbian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotha_Lintorn-Orman

This.
We saw what happened after the hate preachers were allowed free reign .

Seems there was a shoot out in Berlin and he has been fatally wounded.

Very well said.

I think you must be very naive. His parents and wider family will have brought him up with their values, not German ones.

Since when did being female and a lesbian stop you having far-right views?
I don’t quite understand your comment.

well the two aren’t natural bedfellows.

You may be well be right and there is also interesting research showing a correlation between a person of North African heritage moving to a European country in their teens and later psychosis.

These two facts taken together would suggest to me that stopping or limiting any more such immigration is the most pragmatic response to keep our populations safe.

It is not realistic to suggest we should stop the wars in these war-torn places. My late nextdoor neighbour was a Marine in Israel/-Palestine in 1948. Despite all our efforts, these are warlike peoples with deepseated grievances that the West cannot solve. We have to focus on keeping our own people safe.

The government don't care whether or not the population are safe. If that was their priority, they would stop problematic people from entering.

One has to assume that this is deliberate.

Exactly this: We tolerate the intolerant too much.

And the ridiculous attempt by @DrPrunesqualer to blame Israel for Islamic extremists completely discredits everything else they have to say.

Well someone just drove a van into a Pride celebration. So it's not exactly "so what" is it?

Yeah things generally get blamed on the jooos. Christ I feel sorry for Jews in Britain, this shit is just relentless. People need to take responsibility for themselves, this guy hates gay people because he’s been taught they are evil and depraved and need to be punished for it. Not the first time an attack on gay people has been done by an islamist, there was that gay nightclub in the USA as well.

Also this bullshit about generational trauma, I know quite a few lovely Lebanese people who have absolutely 100% never committed a terrorist attack and never would harm anyone (and don’t particularly mind gay people either) and they actually grew up in Lebanon during the actual civil war with people firing at their buildings and bombs going off. Some definitely have PTSD as well. But I’m supposed to believe this twat experienced so much trauma in the womb that he was forced to do this.

Somehow despite 99.99% of the violent attacks, terror, war etc being caused by men you have managed to blame a woman so well done (pre-natal malnutrition and trauma).

you are right, though when you say we cannot solve the world’s problems, so surely the sensible thing to do would be to minimise the amount of young men from war torn areas from settling here in the UK. (Especially if they have come from a malnourished mother.)

I've said this before, but it's racism packaged as being progressive. Israelis are coded as Western and therefore responsible for their own actions, people from other countries in the MENA region are not.