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Thread 54 Starmer: Grev Søppelbøttefjes Sommergalskap

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DuncinToffee · 10/07/2026 17:13

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pointythings · 13/07/2026 18:27

dontcallmelen · 13/07/2026 18:24

This surely Suella & Jenrick should of been aware of this aren’t they both lawyers.

It's just another load of shit stirring against anything possibly seen as 'forrin'. Their edifice is collapsing and they're thrashing around doing ever more pathetic desperate things.

LizzieW1969 · 13/07/2026 18:30

DuncinToffee · 13/07/2026 17:39

They haven't thought this one through

https://bylinetimes.com/2026/07/13/reform-uk-plans-to-jail-candidates-for-using-irish-gaelic-or-cornish-on-election-leaflets/

Reform-backed amendment to Labour’s new elections Bill would see candidates who use the Irish language, Scottish Gaelic and Cornish face prison time.

New Clause 107 to the Representation of the People Bill – tabled by Reform UK’s deputy leader Richard Tice and co-signed by Reform MPs Lee Anderson, Sarah Pochin, Danny Kruger, Robert Jenrick, Andrew Rosindell and Suella Braverman – would require all election publications and election material to be “in the English language or the Welsh language” only.

I'm sure they would have liked to attempt to exclude Welsh as well.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2026 18:35

dontcallmelen · 13/07/2026 18:24

This surely Suella & Jenrick should of been aware of this aren’t they both lawyers.

No one said they were good ones.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2026 18:37

pointythings · 13/07/2026 18:27

It's just another load of shit stirring against anything possibly seen as 'forrin'. Their edifice is collapsing and they're thrashing around doing ever more pathetic desperate things.

I'd like to imagine the end of Terminator 2, when the T1000 is thrashing in the molten metal, unravelling all it's previous incarnations.

Does this mean Reformers will start banging on about Brexit, and then UK Independence ?

placemats · 13/07/2026 18:38

It's all rather reckless, reductive, reactive and rubbish @dontcallmelen

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2026 18:43

LizzieW1969 · 13/07/2026 18:30

I'm sure they would have liked to attempt to exclude Welsh as well.

And piss off King Charles ? Who can speak more Welsh.than all the Reform MPs put together. (Reform MPs need to be careful all gathering together. It can get cold in the sewers and they really wouldn't want all their little ratty tails to freeze together ....)

BestIsWest · 13/07/2026 19:30

Andy Burnham has effectively been confirmed as the new Labour leader with 349 of the party's MPs having now nominated him to replace Sir Keir Starmer.

From the BBC. No one can get enough nominations to stand against him now although he still needs the backing of affiliated organisations.

dontcallmelen · 13/07/2026 19:43

Still not sure how I feel about this, hopefully my misgivings will be proved wrong.

Llttledrummergirl · 13/07/2026 20:25

I agree. I'm always dubious about populist movements and this is no different.

TemperanceWest · 13/07/2026 20:30

I feel the same.

placemats · 13/07/2026 20:38

Llttledrummergirl · 13/07/2026 20:25

I agree. I'm always dubious about populist movements and this is no different.

How is a change of Prime Minister a populist move?

LizzieW1969 · 13/07/2026 20:39

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2026 18:43

And piss off King Charles ? Who can speak more Welsh.than all the Reform MPs put together. (Reform MPs need to be careful all gathering together. It can get cold in the sewers and they really wouldn't want all their little ratty tails to freeze together ....)

True enough, they wouldn't dare suggest including Welsh in their amendment. Hence why I said that I suspect they wish they could.

Llttledrummergirl · 13/07/2026 20:50

How is the majority of the MPs supporting a single candidate who up until a month ago wasn't even an MP not a populist movement?

Other than 1st past the post, the majority of elections go to more than one round because no-one usually does that well.

BIossomtoes · 13/07/2026 21:17

Unanimity means he’s brought the party together which is exactly what’s needed. I’m not going to argue with it. He’s got three years to make tangible improvements and get them electable again. It’s going to be an uphill slog.

DuncinToffee · 13/07/2026 21:24

Guess Barwell was missing a C somewhere

https://bsky.app/profile/jaheale.bsky.social/post/3mqkce52tac2w
Gavin Barwell has lost the Conservative whip. Party sources keen to emphasise it’s not just about views but conduct too

Letter from Baroness Williams, the party’s Chief Whip in the Lords, reads as follows:

James Heale (@jaheale.bsky.social)

Gavin Barwell has lost the Conservative whip. Party sources keen to emphasise it’s not just about views but conduct too Letter from Baroness Williams, the party’s Chief Whip in the Lords, reads as follows:

https://bsky.app/profile/jaheale.bsky.social/post/3mqkce52tac2w

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placemats · 13/07/2026 21:54

"Conduct." Oh my giddy aunt 😂

placemats · 13/07/2026 22:04

Irish and Welsh especially as penalties were in place if the language was spoken. English only. Always in deprived areas as well.

Cheguevarahamster · 13/07/2026 22:38

Nigel Farage declined offer of taxpayer-funded security

Sorry if this has been posted earlier. Wasn't he using his lottery win for security?

"Nigel Farage turned down taxpayer-funded security including a bodyguard, car and trained driver last year, The i Paper has learned.
The Reform UK leader was offered the protection following police advice on the threats he faced.
He had already been receiving publicly funded security prior to this, and felt that his package had been downgraded."

"The i Paper has learned he was offered a taxpayer-funded bodyguard, car and trained driver supplied by private contractors.

The offer followed a July 2025 review by Parliament’s former security director Alison Giles, and specified that it could be upgraded for more high-risk events.
The royal and VIP executive committee (Ravec), responsible for the security of the royals, the prime minister and the home secretary, was brought in to help assess the threat faced by MPs in February 2024.
One parliamentary source claimed Farage was unhappy with the offer as he wanted security at the same level as the Home Secretary, who has one of the highest levels of protection among government ministers. This was denied as “false” by a Reform spokesman who said the leader did not make specific requests.

The source said: “My understanding is he demanded something akin to what the Home Secretary gets and was denied it and therefore can claim that he was denied proper protection.”"

Nigel Farage declined offer of taxpayer-funded security

The Reform leader's spokesman told The i Paper it was a downgrade on the state-funded security he had previously received

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-declined-offer-of-taxpayer-funded-security-4642400

PickAChew · 13/07/2026 22:50

BIossomtoes · 13/07/2026 21:17

Unanimity means he’s brought the party together which is exactly what’s needed. I’m not going to argue with it. He’s got three years to make tangible improvements and get them electable again. It’s going to be an uphill slog.

This is the one thing I cling to. To have that many MPs backing him, he has to have united the full spectrum from the very left to the centre.

PickAChew · 13/07/2026 22:59

Cheguevarahamster · 13/07/2026 22:38

Nigel Farage declined offer of taxpayer-funded security

Sorry if this has been posted earlier. Wasn't he using his lottery win for security?

"Nigel Farage turned down taxpayer-funded security including a bodyguard, car and trained driver last year, The i Paper has learned.
The Reform UK leader was offered the protection following police advice on the threats he faced.
He had already been receiving publicly funded security prior to this, and felt that his package had been downgraded."

"The i Paper has learned he was offered a taxpayer-funded bodyguard, car and trained driver supplied by private contractors.

The offer followed a July 2025 review by Parliament’s former security director Alison Giles, and specified that it could be upgraded for more high-risk events.
The royal and VIP executive committee (Ravec), responsible for the security of the royals, the prime minister and the home secretary, was brought in to help assess the threat faced by MPs in February 2024.
One parliamentary source claimed Farage was unhappy with the offer as he wanted security at the same level as the Home Secretary, who has one of the highest levels of protection among government ministers. This was denied as “false” by a Reform spokesman who said the leader did not make specific requests.

The source said: “My understanding is he demanded something akin to what the Home Secretary gets and was denied it and therefore can claim that he was denied proper protection.”"

He probably expects a full team of heavies, judging by some of his walkabouts.

LizzieW1969 · 13/07/2026 23:01

PickAChew · 13/07/2026 22:50

This is the one thing I cling to. To have that many MPs backing him, he has to have united the full spectrum from the very left to the centre.

Yes, that does leave me feeling a little more hopeful that we might just have some government stability.

Piggywaspushed · 14/07/2026 07:04

I think the Burnham thing is a good thing. Surely we want a unifying leader?

If we grumble on here we are literally handing material to the Right to continue their King of the North sniping.

Neither Corbyn nor Starmer were unifiers. Corbyn obviously but also Starmer for alienating the left. Burnham has been out of that shenanigans so will be a fresh start. Fingers crossed.

Zonder · 14/07/2026 07:41

I'm not sure he is such a unifier @Piggywaspushed I agree that's what we need but I'm not sure he's it. Not that I have a better idea, and personally I think he will do a good job.

Notonthestairs · 14/07/2026 08:18

Cheguevarahamster · 13/07/2026 22:38

Nigel Farage declined offer of taxpayer-funded security

Sorry if this has been posted earlier. Wasn't he using his lottery win for security?

"Nigel Farage turned down taxpayer-funded security including a bodyguard, car and trained driver last year, The i Paper has learned.
The Reform UK leader was offered the protection following police advice on the threats he faced.
He had already been receiving publicly funded security prior to this, and felt that his package had been downgraded."

"The i Paper has learned he was offered a taxpayer-funded bodyguard, car and trained driver supplied by private contractors.

The offer followed a July 2025 review by Parliament’s former security director Alison Giles, and specified that it could be upgraded for more high-risk events.
The royal and VIP executive committee (Ravec), responsible for the security of the royals, the prime minister and the home secretary, was brought in to help assess the threat faced by MPs in February 2024.
One parliamentary source claimed Farage was unhappy with the offer as he wanted security at the same level as the Home Secretary, who has one of the highest levels of protection among government ministers. This was denied as “false” by a Reform spokesman who said the leader did not make specific requests.

The source said: “My understanding is he demanded something akin to what the Home Secretary gets and was denied it and therefore can claim that he was denied proper protection.”"

Why on earth would he turn this down?

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