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Is anyone else struggling after going down Epstein files rabbit hole

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Strugglingafterseeing · 07/02/2026 16:00

I feel so upset and disturbed. I didn't want to see and read the things I have but I just couldn't look away from the horror. I think part of me was hoping to come across something that says it's all fake news. It's all exaggerated and made up. But it isn't is it? It's probably not even the half of it.

Perhaps very naively, I thought the files "just" involved girls of 14/15 being trafficked among all the other corruption. I had no idea how much more there was. The horrors that have come to pass and no doubt are still are still happening while these monsters remain shielded by their money and power.

Is anyone else really struggling with what they've seen and learnt over the last few days? And any advice to try and move forwards now, because ultimately I can't change this and my mental health was already fragile (thanks menopause). I need to keep on going for my own DC. I'm angry and so, so sad that humans are capable of this.

My Instagram is meant to be funny reels about dogs and menopause but now I'm being fed more and more about Epstein. I know it's the algorithm effect because I've watched similar content but now I need it to stop. I've logged out for the time being. Might not go back. I don't think our brains are meant to able to deal with all this.

Those poor babies. How on earth can this be real Sad

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Frugalgal · 07/02/2026 17:20

DabOfPistachio · 07/02/2026 16:33

I'm struggling with it too. It makes for difficult reading, but it is worth noting that amongst the (genuine) horrifying stuff, I've also seen claims that are clearly AI and faked, mostly on Instagram and as OP says, once you come across one video, the algorithm feeds you more and more.
The AI stuff I saw claimed that he was roasting and eating children so it is very extreme. As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no credible evidence for this.
It's frustrating because what is there is bad enough and it also means that when genuine evidence arises, its difficult to know if it is real. It also means that the men involved will find it easier to claim it was all fake. Perhaps that's the point.

As with all these things, the truth is more than bad enough, no one needs to invent outlandish horror stories, so I don't know why they are.

Beachtastic · 07/02/2026 17:22

You could try verifying some of the stories on a site like snopes.com. For example, a water trapdoor has been circulated on SM as part of some ritual sacrifice thing, but is more likely to have been a door into a concrete water storage tank for use as clean water for the island.

https://www.snopes.com/collections/jeffrey-epstein-collection/

19 rumors Snopes has investigated related to Jeffrey Epstein

From photos with politicians to rumors of art he owned, Snopes has looked into a variety of claims related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

https://www.snopes.com/collections/jeffrey-epstein-collection/

Newbutoldfather · 07/02/2026 17:25

As far as I have read, the youngest victim was 14, an adolescent, not a baby.

The reality is bad enough without believing the fake news on SM.

I haven’t looked at the actual documents, which are, apparently, searchable but I will take BBC, WSJ and Times over dodgy SM.

Grammarninja · 07/02/2026 17:27

I'm devastated too. My father is a wonderful man: kind, caring, generous, loving. I assumed men were generally like this. I've been so blind. I've lost faith in men completely. I now see good men as the exception to the rule. It's so upsetting and mind-altering.

TheGoddessAthena · 07/02/2026 17:29

Strugglingafterseeing · 07/02/2026 16:17

Genuinely, it wasn't intentional. I don't go looking for it. Was just having a quick scroll through Instagram last night. I don't follow anyone controversial or political. But one thing about EF pops up, then another, then another... I was in shock what I was seeing and reading.

I'm not minimising what he did.

But there is a lot of stuff on social media which is completely fake. And the more you look at the fake stuff, the more extreme stuff you're fed.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 07/02/2026 17:30

Thistimearound · 07/02/2026 16:58

The whole thing is making me so confused. Why is the DOJ “dropping” all these documents as if it’s a fun scandal?
Why haven’t there been any arrests? - it seems like there is sufficient evidence to want to interview hundreds of people at least.
Why are the documents released in the first place, wouldn’t this prejudice a trial?
Why are they releasing so many horrible pictures (yes like the baby one) without any context - presumably these things have been investigated? If not, why not? What have they actually done for all these years?

It shouldn’t be up to internet sleuths to decide what needs investigating and who did what and what documents are fake and what not.

The documents have been released by DoJ because they were legally required to release them.

As to why there haven't been any arrests? Well, who knows. Arrests may still come.

But I don't think all of the files have been released, and I don't think some will ever be released.

Clubbiscuit · 07/02/2026 17:30

I agree. Why are these evil bastards not in prison? I’m so angry. Why is Reform the most popular party when they are part of it. Why is Andrew not in jail? Why did Trump get away with that ape photo of the Obamas? These people make me sick to my stomach.

Frugalgal · 07/02/2026 17:30

Delilahelixir · 07/02/2026 16:10

I saw someone on here saying if you want to know what’s really coming out in the Epstein’s files look on Twitter because it’s not being properly reported anywhere else. To my eternal regret I downloaded Twitter because I didn’t think I really understood the controversy about the Epstein’s files. I know he was a paedophile who trafficked girls, but didn’t know what the new information was. I searched under Epstein latest and the first tweet that came up was a picture of what looked like a mummified foetus he had as an ornament. People were demanding it be tested/x-rayed etc. The second picture was Epstein’s grappling a child onto a bed. It looked like he was about to bite her bum. Enough! I deleted the app. I changed my mind - I don’t want to know.

Twitter makes cesspits seem fragrant. I deleted it when it started presenting me with horrific photos from warzones and animal cruelty without me ever seeking out such things.

EatYourDamnPie · 07/02/2026 17:32

All the stuff is available on the DoJ website for anyone to see and trawl through if they have the will and the time .

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 07/02/2026 17:32

Frugalgal · 07/02/2026 17:20

As with all these things, the truth is more than bad enough, no one needs to invent outlandish horror stories, so I don't know why they are.

Clickbait.

People are making money out of this, unbelievably.

We should not be feeding them.

Henhipster · 07/02/2026 17:32

IzzyStardust · 07/02/2026 16:21

Move forwards?

Read a book, go for a walk, phone a friend.

Stop immersing yourself in something that has no real relevance to your life.

Terrible crimes occur all the time.
We don't need dwell on them 24/7.

Edited

Totally agree and also would add I think what can help is feel as though you are injecting some positive energy back in the world-do something kind for someone, give a donation either money or goods to a women’s refuge, look at beautiful art either in the flesh or online, try to get out into nature to remind yourself of the beauty and wonder in the world. There are lots of things to do. We’d all go mad if we just listened to the bad stuff, I feel your pain. I hate all the details we hear of murder and hate, and it’s a trap that’s easy to fall into. Good luck. x

PithyViewer · 07/02/2026 17:38

OP, the stuff you've mentioned is fake, that's why it's not getting reported in the proper media. I see on Twitter there's someone saying all the files have just been released, and the images you mention are from that account. But it's not true that everything has just been released. Don't worry, it's just someone playing silly buggers. This is why you should stick with reputable media. Twitter is the wild west.

OnlyCosy · 07/02/2026 17:42

As a victim of satanic ritual abuse, this is hitting very badly.
I am going to Church tomorrow though, and I know that will help.
We are dealing with elites that are a part of a global satanic cult. This is potentially going to cause trauma on a mass scale, our entire world is not what we thought or what we had hoped.

thestudio · 07/02/2026 17:46

Frugalgal · 07/02/2026 17:19

I've not gone down the rabbit hole but I've seen things that have been released by the DoJ about nights with 'littlest girls' and 'thanks for a fun night with a 9 year old' and so on..They trafficked very young children from poor countries to abuse.

A spokesman for the US government said on TV that they were holding back anything involving violence, murder and torture.

So god only knows what else there is.

The rght wing media is already trying to silence it, saying it's getting boring, gone on too long, it's all a hysteria etc. Can't help feeling it will get swept under the carpet in the end and out of all those many, many monsters only that one woman will ever be jailed for it.

Pleas could you link to the DoJ release relating to those quotes?

I would be very very surprised if they were genuinely in the DOJ release and the guardian for eg wasn’t reporting on them.

Lifeomars · 07/02/2026 17:47

I dread to think what Twitter is like now, I shut my account a while ago as it had become a really unpleasant site since Musk bought it. I am on Instagram and have noticed some absolutely mental stuff on there about the fiies which I scroll quickly by. I am a survivor of sexual abuse in my family and two attacks one when I was early 20's and one much later in life. I have a diagnosis of CPTSD as a result. My heart and thoughts are with the victims. What is making me really angry is the political capital being made from the (deserved) downfall of Mandelson which never ever mentions the young girls and women who have suffered untold harm . I limit my news consumption and focus on other things, currently planning what I am going to plant in my back yard for Summer, it feels really cleansing

Womaninhouse17 · 07/02/2026 17:49

Delilahelixir · 07/02/2026 16:10

I saw someone on here saying if you want to know what’s really coming out in the Epstein’s files look on Twitter because it’s not being properly reported anywhere else. To my eternal regret I downloaded Twitter because I didn’t think I really understood the controversy about the Epstein’s files. I know he was a paedophile who trafficked girls, but didn’t know what the new information was. I searched under Epstein latest and the first tweet that came up was a picture of what looked like a mummified foetus he had as an ornament. People were demanding it be tested/x-rayed etc. The second picture was Epstein’s grappling a child onto a bed. It looked like he was about to bite her bum. Enough! I deleted the app. I changed my mind - I don’t want to know.

I wouldn't rely on Twitter for accurate news. It's too easy to fake stuff.

FluentOP · 07/02/2026 17:49

Yes, I too started reading the files and feel very depressed about how many people in power are implicated in this and are still being protected. There are so many names of politicians and royalty abusing their power. The girls’ stories are harrowing (baby girls being murdered) and girls being strangled and buried on Epstein’s ranch and Trump’s golf course. I really hope these evil perpetrators get convicted. I need to clear my mind and take a break and remind myself that most people are decent and have good morals.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 07/02/2026 17:51

I suggest watching old movies on YouTube or Prime. They have loads. They are very comforting even if dealing with crime. Currently watching Sherlock Holmes starring Christopher Lee.

Tonissister · 07/02/2026 17:51

Please don't assume SM 'news' is in any way reliable.

And as PP have said, just click on a load of cute animal videos. Or mini exercise workouts. Or recipes. The algorithm will catch up.

PandoraSocks · 07/02/2026 17:52

thestudio · 07/02/2026 17:46

Pleas could you link to the DoJ release relating to those quotes?

I would be very very surprised if they were genuinely in the DOJ release and the guardian for eg wasn’t reporting on them.

I know the "9 year old" reference was reportedly to be a transcribing (not sure if right word) error.

Eta link, sorry so long!
www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-doj-epstein-librarys-095825612.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD1Fa3g-YQ4qQIRwhnx0aPKceNvW_4w-HkedYHteKSbImAL95rGSheQp5cR_2yCsP8V8S40icJZYTsEIetbQ84tUla63dOOxn3ynxEDvUuXzfe0AcS6yID509YfT9HdMpQqQjQ9rFVuCv9INXLtVYNSaDLf1WxOoqABog1uKATHH

Hyrtlemyrtle · 07/02/2026 17:57

I haven’t been offered anything. I am not on Twitter and Facebook. I am on YouTube but I only ever get offered House videos or scenic trips. My YouTube land is free from anything distasteful. I would never ever click on something nasty. However, I am never offered ‘nasty’. The only place I have seen anything about the Epstein files is on MN. There are lots of threads on here. The victims have repeatedly said they don’t want the kind of attention they are getting and it seems really wrong to go against their wishes and spread scurrilous rumours based on SM hype.

Lyraloo · 07/02/2026 17:57

You need to stop reading things that get you in a state like this! Why would you do it when you know you’re fragile and are struggling AND have a dc to look after?

RottenApplesSpoilTheLot · 07/02/2026 17:59

I don't go looking for it. Nothing I can do can help anyone apart from use my vote wisely etc. I am on Twitter and instagram multiple times a day and have seen nothing more upsetting that people talking about it - because I don't click on links about this the algorithm just doesn't show it to me.

I am also VERY aware that much of what has been mentioned on this thread is totally fake, created by sick fucks using AI.

Epstein and his cronies abused and used young girls. That is horrific enough, but is happening throughout the world. All we can do is keep pointing that out with revulsion and never let it become normalised. We call for the full weight of the law to be used on the perpetrators - no matter who they are - but we also have to accept the need for evidence.

There is no genuine evidence of anything else more horrific so far - please don't fall down the extreme conspiracy theory rabbit hole and let it affect your mental health OP - step away

Frugalgal · 07/02/2026 18:00

EmeraldRoulette · 07/02/2026 16:40

I haven't seen anything

But I am under the impression that the official files released only contain written material

Wouldn't that mean that any kind of video is likely to be fake?

I cannot imagine that anyone like him would have allowed any video to be taken.

There have been a number of relatively innocuous videos shown on the news. There are definitely photos and videos